Can we stop this PC bull**** about treating hobby joggers like equals?!

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I'm so sick and tired of reading about people who call themselves runners off 5 miles/week, smile and wave and jump for joy during races with their headphones jammed in their ears, and look down their nose at me when they talk about how many marathons they've completed. YOU AREN'T A RUNNER, STOP PRETENDING TO BE ONE, STOP GETTING OFFENDED WHEN IT'S THE TRUTH. Let's cut out this politically correct garbage-- handing out participation medals for races and treating your 20 minute milers the same as the college elites. When you run 100 mile weeks, train your ass off all year long, and live and breath running, then I'll consider it--- but only if you can break 7 minutes in the mile, Sir Weekday Warrior. Eat my split shorts.

^^Listen to this emaciated, smelly, LowT doofus that is avoiding real life by pretending running is going ot get him somewhere.

are you serious? It isn't easy running a 7-minute mile and most people cannot do it

You are taking this way too seriously chill brah.

That being said a woman on my facebook ran a marathon in 4:34 and won't shut up about it, and the post is full of likes and comments like I'M SO PROUD

If you aren't making money through your racing endeavors, then you are a Hobby Jogger.

Time to Face the Factss wrote:

If you aren't making money through your racing endeavors, then you are a Hobby Jogger.

Or you could just call them "amateurs".

I think the difference between a runner and a hobby jogger is mostly a matter of PRs. I'm not sure what those PRs are, but I have a hard time calling a male who cannot break 7 minutes in the mile a runner.

I used to be a runner, now I am too slow. I'm okay with this. I think I can still break 6 in a mile, but I am very slow now. I know first-hand that there is a huge difference between both.

I get it, there are people out there who run every day. There are also people out there who play pick up basketball every day. There are also people who ride a bike every day. I'm not trying to be inflammatory here, but at some point you're just out there running each day rather than really training.

douchelin^3 wrote:

I think the difference between a runner and a hobby jogger is mostly a matter of PRs. I'm not sure what those PRs are, but I have a hard time calling a male who cannot break 7 minutes in the mile a runner.

I used to be a runner, now I am too slow. I'm okay with this. I think I can still break 6 in a mile, but I am very slow now. I know first-hand that there is a huge difference between both.

I get it, there are people out there who run every day. There are also people out there who play pick up basketball every day. There are also people who ride a bike every day. I'm not trying to be inflammatory here, but at some point you're just out there running each day rather than really training.

ok, so the cut-off is 7-minutes for a mile?

You are infringing on my safe space of the when I get my finisher metal put around my neck. I demand your immediate resignation and call for a nationwide protest called the Million Hobby Jogger March. It will only look like a March because we are so slow. We are running but you just can't tell.

I average about 8 dollars per year I ran in race prizes. Does that make me a runner?

r u serious about this wrote:

ok, so the cut-off is 7-minutes for a mile?

I didn't say that. You said that. I'm just thinking that for an active (a "runner") male between the ages of 11-50 you should be able to break 7 minutes in a mile when push comes to shove.

Like I said, I'm not sure what the time standards should be. I think it's the overall attitude of training for something. I can tell that you don't agree, and that's fine with me.

This is a topic that people need to discuss, no matter how upset people get. They need to hear it.

One thing is for sure. If you're posting all over social media to brag about your racing/training, you are more of an attention whore than a runner.

Hi Mike

Runner: a jogger who has a habit of running.

Amateur runner: someone who beats the jogger.

Professional runner: contract paid runner.

Elite runner: contract paid runner + event based paid contracts.

Star runner: paid to appear in ads.

George Ilie wrote:

Runner: a jogger who has a habit of running.

Amateur runner: someone who beats the jogger.

Professional runner: contract paid runner.

Elite runner: contract paid runner + event based paid contracts.

Star runner: paid to appear in ads.

I can support this.

The key to happiness is to not observe others. Worry about yourself. If you weren't unhappy about hobby joggers, you would be unhappy about something else....probably selfies, "millenials" or stupid old people.If you don't watch yourself you could end up with a stroke at 50.

I'm serious about this wrote:

I'm so sick and tired of reading about people who call themselves runners off 5 miles/week, smile and wave and jump for joy during races with their headphones jammed in their ears, and look down their nose at me when they talk about how many marathons they've completed. YOU AREN'T A RUNNER, STOP PRETENDING TO BE ONE, STOP GETTING OFFENDED WHEN IT'S THE TRUTH. Let's cut out this politically correct garbage-- handing out participation medals for races and treating your 20 minute milers the same as the college elites. When you run 100 mile weeks, train your ass off all year long, and live and breath running, then I'll consider it--- but only if you can break 7 minutes in the mile, Sir Weekday Warrior. Eat my split shorts.

r u serious about this wrote:

are you serious? It isn't easy running a 7-minute mile and most people cannot do it

Look's like we got ourselves a hobby jogger boys

George Ilie wrote:

Runner: a jogger who has a habit of running.

Amateur runner: someone who beats the jogger.

Professional runner: contract paid runner.

Elite runner: contract paid runner + event based paid contracts.

Star runner: paid to appear in ads.

Except saying "amateur", "professional", "elite", or "star" attached to the word running still makes people think one thing: runner

I like the term "leg mover" when referring to the average joe. It doesn't have the life or spirit "runner" does, just the way it should be.

I don't really care that much about what other people do or don't do, can or can't do, in running or in anything else.

First things first wrote:

If you don't watch yourself you could end up with a stroke at 50.

Good. At least I won't have to watch Tammy haul her fat a** past my window every day with 15 finisher medals around her neck.