Ben Carson lied about getting full scholarship to West Point...He's Toast

DiscoGary wrote:

22nd amendment reads:

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

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So if Bill were VP and ascended to the throne via Hillary's demise, then he WOULDN'T be "elected" to the office, and it appears that the 22nd would allow such a thing. He could do this indefinitely with various proxies running as temporary placeholders.

Hmmm. I wonder what the USSC would think of this.

Not sure how it would actually work, but in that situation, couldn't the appointment roll down to the next candidate, Speaker of the House? Similar to Kissinger's situation.

Uh, he is definitely not done. In light of record scratching whacko comments he has made throughout the campaign, the bar for him is incredibly low. The Republican candidates are like the undead right now. Can't kill them because they are already dead.

Democrats are only doing slightly better.

indie guy wrote:

agip wrote:

Wouldn't you think the religious right would *not* vote for a proven serial liar?

Strange group of people, them.

That appears to be a major difference between the parties. Republicans value truth from their reps, Democrats do not.

my point is that the religious right does NOT value truth. They support Carson despite his serial lying. Not one of his controversial statements has proven to be true.

And yes HRC's file is a whole lot cleaner:

seriously man - I could play this game all day - there is no doubt that the GOP is a fantasist party - their candidates make up things willy nilly and their voters don't give a darn. it's weird but that's who they are.

Its not a game....apparently you do not value truth....to find the problems with our country, look no further.

So explain something to me about Ben Carson. How does someone who obviously is very, very bright in the realm of, say pediatric brain surgery, manage to sound like such an uneducated goofball in another area? The pyramids were early examples of grain elevators? Nice one!

agip wrote:

indie guy wrote:

That appears to be a major difference between the parties. Republicans value truth from their reps, Democrats do not.

my point is that the religious right does NOT value truth. They support Carson despite his serial lying. Not one of his controversial statements has proven to be true.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/

And yes HRC's file is a whole lot cleaner:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

seriously man - I could play this game all day - there is no doubt that the GOP is a fantasist party - their candidates make up things willy nilly and their voters don't give a darn. it's weird but that's who they are.

Uh, Obama wrote a biography where he admitted that many of the characters were fictional. If you voted for him, you shouldn't be pointing any fingers.

Er... wrote:

So explain something to me about Ben Carson. How does someone who obviously is very, very bright in the realm of, say pediatric brain surgery, manage to sound like such an uneducated goofball in another area? The pyramids were early examples of grain elevators? Nice one!

My mechanic sounds like a genius when he tells me the stuff wrong with my car. I'm not saying Carson is stupid, quite the opposite. It is just that we tend to be very smart at what we specialize in and not so much when it comes to general knowledge or basic skills.

The liberal leaning media will do whatever it takes to discredit a black, conservative republican presidential candidate while simultaneously ignoring every fault of a white, female democrat candidate.

car surgery wrote:

Er... wrote:

So explain something to me about Ben Carson. How does someone who obviously is very, very bright in the realm of, say pediatric brain surgery, manage to sound like such an uneducated goofball in another area? The pyramids were early examples of grain elevators? Nice one!

My mechanic sounds like a genius when he tells me the stuff wrong with my car. I'm not saying Carson is stupid, quite the opposite. It is just that we tend to be very smart at what we specialize in and not so much when it comes to general knowledge or basic skills.

Carson is trying to sound like an uneducated goofball because that's all the Republican voter base can understand.

DiscoGary wrote:

agip wrote:

my point is that the religious right does NOT value truth. They support Carson despite his serial lying. Not one of his controversial statements has proven to be true.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/

And yes HRC's file is a whole lot cleaner:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

seriously man - I could play this game all day - there is no doubt that the GOP is a fantasist party - their candidates make up things willy nilly and their voters don't give a darn. it's weird but that's who they are.

Uh, Obama wrote a biography where he admitted that many of the characters were fictional. If you voted for him, you shouldn't be pointing any fingers.

cite please

agip do you even read the threads you post on?

As the NY times wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02...d=all&_r=0

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NY Times wrote:

Mr. Obama’s account of his younger self and drugs, though, significantly differs from the recollections of others who do not recall his drug use. That could suggest he was so private about his usage that few people were aware of it, that the memories of those who knew him decades ago are fuzzy or rosier out of a desire to protect him, or that he added some writerly touches in his memoir to make the challenges he overcame seem more dramatic.

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Or as Buzzfeed wrote:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmi...oe7XBzVNn9

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Buzzfeed wrote:

The warning was right there in the preface to his 1995 memoir, where Barack Obama admitted the chapters to come were taking liberties with the truth: "Although much of this book is based on contemporaneous journals or the oral histories of my family, the dialogue is necessarily an approximation of what was actually said or relayed to me." Even the people weren't entirely real: "For the sake of compression, some of the characters that appear are composites of people, I've known, and some events appear out of precise chronology

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Snet wrote:

rojo wrote:

[quote]Snet wrote:

This opens the door for George W. Bush to make a serious run at a third term.

BTW, I'm still banned from posting on my other computer. How do I get unbanned? Thanks.

Elizabeth Warren lied about being an Indian and the enlightened citizens of Massachusetts voted her into the Senate...

agip wrote:

[quote]indie guy wrote:

[quote]agip wrote:

seriously man - I could play this game all day - there is no doubt that the GOP is a fantasist party - their candidates make up things willy nilly and their voters don't give a darn. it's weird but that's who they are.

Pretty much. The guy thinks that jeebus wrote the constitution joseph built the pyramids. He has peddled phoney drugs for Mannatech and his primary policy advisor is the ghost of Cleon Skousen, a complete crackpot. To any objective observer, Carson would come across an actual crazy person. I'm optimistic that the "liberal media" play won't be enough to carry him through the next year.

First of all, that last part - that Obama admits he approximated dialogue and composited people...*Obama himself* wrote that in the forward of his book. It's not like he was caught years later like Carson was. #notascandal

As for the drugs...I dunno man - so people didn't remember BHO's drug use - that doesn't mean it didn't happen. People now don't remember Carson's supposed violent youth. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Maybe he did try stabbing his friend or attacking his mother. If those hold true, then he's vindicated.......????

drunk runner. wrote:

The liberal leaning media will do whatever it takes to discredit a black, conservative republican presidential candidate while simultaneously ignoring every fault of a white, female democrat candidate.

Exactly. There's a long history of conservative black presidential candidates who've been discredited while white female democatic presidential candidates have been given a free pass.

krispy kremlin_. wrote:

Elizabeth Warren lied about being an Indian and the enlightened citizens of Massachusetts voted her into the Senate...

it's not clear that she isn't some part Native American. Can anyone prove she isn't? her family has it at 1/32nd but they can't prove it.

The question is if she used that to get jobs even though she wasn't culturally native at all. That isn't clear to my knowledge.

but yeah she was wrong to claim that heritage. .

DES MOINES (The Borowitz Report)—New reports indicating that Ben Carson might not have actually stabbed anyone during his youth have sent the retired neurosurgeon plummeting in the latest Republican Presidential polls.

Carson supporters, reeling from the news that their candidate’s past might have been devoid of stabbing, have deserted his candidacy in droves, suggesting that Republican voters viewed Carson’s stabbing as a key part of his résumé.

Indeed, a recent University of Minnesota poll showed that a full third of Carson supporters singled out “his stabbing experience” as a top reason for supporting him for the nation’s highest office.

In Iowa, where Carson was the front-runner before the non-stabbing bombshell hit, voters like Carol Foyler, of Des Moines, expressed dismay and disillusionment that the retired doctor might have fabricated his stabbing exploits to make himself more appealing to Republican voters.

“I was on the fence about Ben Carson, but the stabbing thing really won me over,” she said. “Now, I don’t know what to think.”