HS 10,000m record

Were does this info come from and where do all these Japanesse runners go?

FROM IAAF.

NEWS ON World Junior XC 2002.

Junior men -

In 2002 in Dublin, the junior men’s team finished fourth.

The members of this year’s team are the best high school runners in Japan. The team members Satoru Kitamura, Yuichiro Ueno, Hideaki Date, Yuki Matsuoka, and YUKI SATO have 5000m personal best of 13:45.86, 13:48.06, 13:55.95, 13:57.6, and 14:02.82 respectively.

In the national high school championships, Ueno, Date, Kitamura, Matsuoka, Yuki Sato and Hidekazu Sato finished 5th through to 10th positions. The top 4 spots were Kenyan students in Japan. In addition, Ueno is the national high school record holder at 10,000m, having run 28:27.39 last November. YUKI SATO is also a national junior high school record holder at 3000m.

They are good cross country runner also. Yuichiro Ueno, Yuki Sato, Yuki Matsuoka and Satoru Kitamura finished first, second, third and fourth respectively in the Chiba. In the Fukuoka race they finished first, third, second and fifth respectively, and in the Asian Cross Country Championships, Kitamura, Sato and Ueno swept the top three spots.

So YUKI SATO had broke 20 sec off the previous 10,000m Jap HS record.

WOW!!!

Sev.

they only ran 24 laps.

-and/or-

high school lasts until you're 30 years old in Japan.

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makes rudy's 28;32 look anemic...

I don't believe 28:32 looks anemic from any damn perspective.

Name me an american who medalled in 2004 Olympic middle/long distance track.

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Or who got at least 5th place?

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Even if you have Alan Webb (3:32 1500m, 3:50 miler), didn't seem to make any difference.

Sev.

! wrote:

makes rudy's 28;32 look anemic...

10,000 METERS

3 Jeff Schiebler CAN 28:10.14

what the hell

sevatonic is here! wrote:

Name me an american who medalled in 2004 Olympic middle/long distance track.

Sev.

What cave did you walk out of??? you're just taking over the boards aren't you??? Too cool for dyestat???

how many japanese runners medalled in hte 2004 Olympic middle/long distance races?

Rudy Chapa ran his 28:32 in 1976 (almost 29 years ago)!!! In 1976 his record was INCREDIBLE.

Sevatonic,

Those are amazing Personal Bests for Juniors from one Country. Running has come a long way in 42 years but those times were run by Juniors back then too. I remember when, in 1962, 18 year old Canadian Bruce Kidd upset 1960 Olympic Champion Murray Halberg and American Max Truex in a 5,000 meter race in 13:43.8 (13:17.4 at three) at Compton on the old style track. Those were World Junior and American All-comers records at that time.

Kidd had won the U.S. A.A.U. National Senior Cross Country Championship the fall before in Louisville.

and if i remember correctly, kidd's pb remains 13;43.8.

If I remember correctly, Rudy Chapa's PB remains 28:32.

Correct. He went on to win the British Empire 6 mile championship and place third to Murray Halberg and Ron Clarke in the 3 mile in 1962. He also won another U.S. A.A.U. Nathional Senior Cross Country Championship in 1963. He was on Canada's 1964 Olympic Team.

He then had trouble with injuries and was eventually forced to retire from competition.

Bruce went on to obtain a PhD. and to lead an even more distinguished career off the track. He is now Dean of the Faculty of Physical Education and Health at the University of Toronto.

Bruce Kidd was awarded The Order Of Canada this year!

runner_xc wrote:[/b where do all these Japanesse runners go?

They go to the Rolando Paulino Printing company and ask for the Danny Almonte style Birth Certificate :-)

Sevatonic is a self obsessed fool from Indonesia, who was at one time hounded off of the Marius Bakken site by some of the wiser posters. This was only when he started to tell the odd lie about his PRs over 3k and 3k chase. These guys quickly started to look him up and the more he tried to bluff his way out of it, the worse he looked. Sad really.

Anyway "Sevatonic Is Here", i am not american, but i would like to stand up for them against your remarks on their lack of medals at the Olympics in the MD & LD events. True, they did not medal, but they are getting closer all of the time to producing somebody who is capable. Indonesia....hmmm, hang on a minute, did they have anybody running the MD & LD events in Athens?

The 2 Marathon medals will make up for any shortfall on the track for now, so watch out and see if it has a knock on effect in the future.

As for the Japanese, they are good yes, but these kids are part of a state run system that pushes them towards racing long track distances very young, hence they are better at them from an early age. If the USA did this, then they would have lots of 5k and 10k studs like the Japanese...but would be left a little lacking from 800 - 3k chase.

The Japanese pack well in xc races, but that is it. They have no superstars, their team is good, but will not win anything in mens xc or track, so why are you being so stupid about it. The juniors that you mention were all packed in amongst the likes of Deak, Forrest, Joshua and John who all scored for the USA. The Japanese team were 5th and the USA 7th in Dublin, so not a massive difference there, considering the USA guys all run for different teams and never get to train as a unit....unlike the Japanese, who live together 24/7.

Also, in the Senior race in Dublin, did you notice that the Japanese team was only 15th compared the GBR 10th and USA 11th?? Big points differences too. This is where it matters, at senior level, not the U20 race.

Sevatonic, please stop being an arsehole!

...and you mean to tell me those 20 year old high-schoolers are clean?? If it looks too good to be true...

they are clean mate, just look at the world xc results to see that they are no better than the best USA runners really, they just belong to a state run program. This keeps them free from girls, alcohol, other sport, social pressures and it just so happens to be a system which condones shitloads of miles at a young age.....so dont expect to see these 17/18 yr olds running on the same stage in 10 yrs time. The number of Japanese athletes available to these programs is what will produce results for the coaches, if USATF did similar, then the college system may suffer.....or perhaps it could be run by USATF 'as a college system'?? .....but it would bring together 20-30 of your best athletes to eat, sleep and train together, and in general they would thrive from it.

they are not 20 yrs old either you clown! If US runners were all forced towards a state run heavy distance program as soon as they showed any talent in school, followed by a very early introduction to 5ktrack - Marathon at the age of 14 or 15 then US runners would be running about 1 min quicker for 10k at 18yrs old....but it doesnt mean that their adults would be any quicker!

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