currently in the ghost 7 and while good for the bulk of mileage I was looking at Mizuno because of the firm heel I have heard these are good for achilles tendonitis which I am going through. I have been doing a lot of rolling/extra stretching/compression socks. Any ghost to wave rider runners?
I wore out my first pair of wave riders, and decided to try out the ghost 7. I hated the ghost 7 so much that I gave them away w/ maybe 15 miles on them and went and bought a new pair of wave riders.
Key differences - wave riders are actually neutral, ghosts say they're neutral but actually push your foot sideways to the outside and inhibit natural rolling motion (you end up pushing off from pinky toe instead of ball of foot in ghosts). Also ghost is a lot squishier, while the wave rider feels firmer at contact and does cushioning lower in sole.
Too lazy to actually check the weight of each shoe, but the ghosts definitely feel heavier, but that might just be from how squishy they are and all the lateral forces made it feel like more work with each step.
WR-18 gave me PF :(
I've had some lingering niggles and achilles issues for a while now. I had been running in Asics Nimbus and the Adidas Supernova Glide mostly with some faster stuff in flats. Over the last 2 months I have switched to doing most of my mileage in the Wave Rider 18 and the Sayonara 3 and I couldn't be happier. Nice firm ride and smooth transition. I'm still doing all my workouts without the pain. Give them a shot!
One thing I have noticed is that for me personally I can get a lot more miles out of the Waveriders than I could for the Ghosts. The Ghosts seems to wear down very quickly in the toe area on the soles. Might just be more stride, but the Waveriders seem to last a lot longer.
Hey thanks for all the feedback as a bigger runner(170lbs) i like the idea of a firmer ride to hold the form together however LRS didn't have my size they will have a full run of WR19 and Sayonara 3s by the end of the week. Some runners there have sized down 1/2 from Brooks is that true in your experiences?
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I've had some lingering niggles and achilles issues for a while now. I had been running in Asics Nimbus and the Adidas Supernova Glide mostly with some faster stuff in flats. Over the last 2 months I have switched to doing most of my mileage in the Wave Rider 18 and the Sayonara 3 and I couldn't be happier. Nice firm ride and smooth transition. I'm still doing all my workouts without the pain. Give them a shot!
What are the differences you felt between Rider 18 and Sayonara 3?
As per Runningwarehouse specs, Rider is 30/18mm 9.0oz and Sayonara is 28/18mm 9.2oz, but isn't Sayonara supposed to be lighter and more nimble than Rider?
I wear a 9.5 in my Wave Riders and a 10.5 in my Brooks racing flats. I think my Ghosts were size 10
The Sayonara is definitely a faster shoe in my opinion. Much firmer and it just feels like it has a slightly faster transition (maybe due to the lower heel-to-toe drop). It really doesn't feel like a 9.2oz shoe. I like it a lot actually. Will definitely be a staple of my shoe rotation in the future.
The Rider feels more like a standard trainer. Not clunky, not squishy, just there doing its job. The Rider also has more cushioning in the upper which makes it feel a bit more plush.
As far as sizing goes, I got the same size that I normally wear (didn't have to go up or down).
Hope this helps.
It does help.
Thanks.