Just found out about a contest in my area where they are offering $500 to the person who can achieve the most vertical gain on a free motion incline trainer in 20 minutes, with minimum incline of 20%. What kind of pace conversion should I be looking at here? I'd say for 20 minutes, I could reasonably hold 5:20/mile right now. What does that convert to with a 20% incline?
4000 vertical feet per hour is pretty decent. So 1333 vertical feet in 20 minutes. 6665 horizontal feet at 20% grade. So 1.26 horizontal miles in 20 minutes. 3.78 mph or 15:50/mile pace.
Forget about running the whole thing as you'll likely be reduced to a powerhike (which may allow you go actually cover more ground). 20% grade is pretty darn steep!
uh...maybe forget this challenge and find one that actually makes a little bit more sense AND fun! How about a hot dog eating challenge!?
S. Canaday wrote:
Forget about running the whole thing as you'll likely be reduced to a powerhike (which may allow you go actually cover more ground). 20% grade is pretty darn steep!
I ran the whole thing, was able to get 1844' of vertical gain. Was tougher than I expected. Might have been better if I hadn't done mile repeats this morning.
Another guy was able to get 2028' of vertical.
incline wrote:
S. Canaday wrote:Forget about running the whole thing as you'll likely be reduced to a powerhike (which may allow you go actually cover more ground). 20% grade is pretty darn steep!
I ran the whole thing, was able to get 1844' of vertical gain. Was tougher than I expected. Might have been better if I hadn't done mile repeats this morning.
Another guy was able to get 2028' of vertical.
What pace did you run? At that incline, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the competitors fell off the treadmill while trying to run too fast
Double_Dog wrote:
incline wrote:I ran the whole thing, was able to get 1844' of vertical gain. Was tougher than I expected. Might have been better if I hadn't done mile repeats this morning.
Another guy was able to get 2028' of vertical.
What pace did you run? At that incline, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the competitors fell off the treadmill while trying to run too fast
i was between 5.0 and 6.0 mph the whole way according to the treadmill. Winner would've averaged 5.7ish mph. No one fell off.
S. Canaday wrote:
Forget about running the whole thing as you'll likely be reduced to a powerhike (which may allow you go actually cover more ground). 20% grade is pretty darn steep!
What would you know about hill running, Sage? Your hobby jogger sub 59 finish at Mt. Washington was laughable. I bust out sub 6-minute miles on that hill.
Joking. Mt. Washington is, to me, the mecca of pure hill running races (just running, no trails to navigate through). If you're looking for a reference, that's a decent place to start.
To the OP:
my bad man...I underestimated your fitness! (I'm used to 20% grade on mountains/trails/at altitude...during an ultra...which is always a powerhike...at least for me).
In all honesty on the treadmill I've only run up to 15% grade.
they just got these at the rec center near me, they go up to 30% incline. pretty interesting machine. my glutes are hurting something fierce this morning.
S. Canaday wrote:
To the OP:
my bad man...I underestimated your fitness! (I'm used to 20% grade on mountains/trails/at altitude...during an ultra...which is always a powerhike...at least for me).
In all honesty on the treadmill I've only run up to 15% grade.
You ran 1.9 miles in 15 mins at 15%. Could someone with better math than me calculate how many feet of vertical gain that is?
Metric man wrote:
S. Canaday wrote:To the OP:
my bad man...I underestimated your fitness! (I'm used to 20% grade on mountains/trails/at altitude...during an ultra...which is always a powerhike...at least for me).
In all honesty on the treadmill I've only run up to 15% grade.
You ran 1.9 miles in 15 mins at 15%. Could someone with better math than me calculate how many feet of vertical gain that is?
You're sitting at a computer, ya know....
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=one+mile+at+15%25+grade+vertical+gainI'd say half your track race speed. So 5.7 MPH is 11.4 MPH on the flat, which would be a reasonable pace for a Tmill race winner - 5:15s or so per mile.
incline wrote:
I ran the whole thing, was able to get 1844' of vertical gain. Was tougher than I expected. Might have been better if I hadn't done mile repeats this morning.
Another guy was able to get 2028' of vertical.
The "other guy" was Nate Jewkes. 15th at NCAA XC last year... you're on Letsrun but you didn't recognize him?
blinde wrote:
incline wrote:I ran the whole thing, was able to get 1844' of vertical gain. Was tougher than I expected. Might have been better if I hadn't done mile repeats this morning.
Another guy was able to get 2028' of vertical.
The "other guy" was Nate Jewkes. 15th at NCAA XC last year... you're on Letsrun but you didn't recognize him?
Well I train with him from time to time and didn't think it was really necessary to include a name as it was a low-key Mizzou rec center competition. But, yeah, it was Nate. And, no, he didnt do mile reps in the morning.
guesstimator wrote:
I'd say half your track race speed. So 5.7 MPH is 11.4 MPH on the flat, which would be a reasonable pace for a Tmill race winner - 5:15s or so per mile.
It’s probably a little less than half track speed. I’d say 6.0 at 20% is like running 12.7 mph or so. It really puts lead in your legs though. It definitely benefits altitude trained runners.
“Sorry, meant to say altitude trained Runner’s would have an advantage. I found training at huge inclines to be one way to get stimulus that I didn’t have before and it helped me to breakthrough so I think it’s a benefit to any runner.
incline wrote:
I ran the whole thing, was able to get 1844' of vertical gain. Was tougher than I expected. Might have been better if I hadn't done mile repeats this morning.
Another guy was able to get 2028' of vertical.
That is impressive. Did you take the treadmill with you when gained all that vertical?
incline wrote:
Just found out about a contest in my area where they are offering $500 to the person who can achieve the most vertical gain on a free motion incline trainer in 20 minutes, with minimum incline of 20%. What kind of pace conversion should I be looking at here? I'd say for 20 minutes, I could reasonably hold 5:20/mile right now. What does that convert to with a 20% incline?
No. Sorry. You might be able to handle 8:00 pace. Stress tests get to 20% incline and 6:20 pace at 18:00. Your HR will be 180 at that rate. No way you can hold that for 20 min.