Taoufik Makhloufi workout video 2 weeks before 2:13.09 at 1000m

That's crazy FAST

Nothing to add wrote:

That's crazy FAST

1:44.5 solo 800m in training, that's lightning fast

all at about 52 second pace, so they were targeting a possible 1k world record>1:44.5+26.25=2:10.75. He ran 2:13.09 and I thought at the time he could have handled a faster and more even pace from the pacesetter (his splits may have been all over the map with the pacesetter and then he may have sped up the last 200m). Maybe he will target that wr next year.

Good points jjjj!

Where is that track? Germany? Where is his euro season base?

you'd probably need a good few days rest after a 1'44.5-solo let alone carry on repping !!!

i dread to think what that indicates for a fully rested 800 if he just spent a season running 800 off same training !!!

If he's soloing 1:44 in practice does that show 800 WR potential? A True 800/1500 runner like Coe?

ventolin^3 wrote:

you'd probably need a good few days rest after a 1'44.5-solo let alone carry on repping !!!

i dread to think what that indicates for a fully rested 800 if he just spent a season running 800 off same training !!!

Legit Workout wrote:If he's soloing 1:44 in practice does that show 800 WR potential?

i get prelim estimate for him at

~ 1'42.0

2'11.5

he is some way off 800WR

A True 800/1500 runner like Coe?

anyone who solo's 1'44.5 knowing he had 3 more efforts to make after is damn well a "true" 800/1500 runner

i imagine if he'd just run that 800 flat-out with nothing kept in reserve for later runs he couda dipped into 1'43s with no trouble

with pacing to bell that wouda got him well into 1'42s

& i doubt he was fully rested for a solid 4 or 5 days before these efforts which is pre-requisite

only guys i know who have run 1'44.0 or better solo are :

Rudy - 1'40.9

Kip - 1'42.6i

Gray - 1'42.8

Kipkurgat - 1'43.9

i don't remember anyone other than these 3 breaking 1'44 solo

Nice workout!

Makhloufi looks great.

Thanks for the video.

That guy has incredible recovery

Legit Workout wrote:

If he's soloing 1:44 in practice does that show 800 WR potential? A True 800/1500 runner like Coe?

ventolin^3 wrote:

you'd probably need a good few days rest after a 1'44.5-solo let alone carry on repping !!!

i dread to think what that indicates for a fully rested 800 if he just spent a season running 800 off same training !!!

Idk about that...I mean just cause it was in practice, doesn't mean he wasn't going close to all out. He's run a full second faster in a race before too.

ijenns318 wrote:Idk about that...I mean just cause it was in practice, doesn't mean he wasn't going close to all out

err,,,

if you know you have 3 more reps to run of quickening speed at shorter distance, what is the probability that 800, solo, was your best possible 800 effort ???

then tell me how rested he was for even that !!!

if i was elite guy running such reps, i woud like 4 or 5 days near complete rest before, just a bitta light jogging to keep my legs "active"

He's run a full second faster in a race before too

he runs 800s appallingly, just jogging around at back for 200 before serious running

his stockholm-'12 800 was wild !!!

he jogged around for 200, made outrageous sprint to lead at bell & just got out-duelled by aman who was clearly in 1'42-flat shape off his 1'42.4 out-kicking King in zurich on cold, wet miserable day indicated

aman was clearly in 1'42-flat shape on evidence of zurich but had to fight desperately to outlean maloofi who had run a crazy race

no way has maloofi ever been in same shape as '12 although '15 has shown some near semblance over 800/1k but nowhere near his '12 shape over 1500 where imo he "somehow" was in 3'26+ shape

I would run those times too if I had that music playing at the track.

It wasn't solo. He was paced by a guy on a bike. Also, it was probably with a running start, a big advantage.

Four or five days of light jogging to "rest" results in an 800m runner gaining weight, losing speed and feeling sluggish.

Damn. and he only got 4th...

800m man wrote:It wasn't solo. He was paced by a guy on a bike

no

he was "observed" from guy on a bike

no idea how close or what drafting from vid

if more than 3m, it is worthless drafting

Also, it was probably with a running start, a big advantage

nonsense

only an inept woud consider this a 800 off running start ???!!!

what 800 reps he running ???

Four or five days of light jogging to "rest" results in an 800m runner gaining weight, losing speed and feeling sluggish

utter nonsense

it's called

"weight-watching"

So you read a one off quote from a 1500m runner and use that as your factual basis of all knowing knowledge about peaking for 800m races?

I'm going with actual proof that the BEST EVER 800m run and current world record was done after several rounds of racing.

No world class 800m coach would ever recommend four or five days of light jogging before an important 800m race.

Actual factz wrote:So you read a one off quote from a 1500m runner and use that as your factual basis of all knowing knowledge about peaking for 800m races?

inept

how about

fastest-white-boy-ever-1500 ???

learn to read

I'm going with actual proof that the BEST EVER 800m run and current world record was done after several rounds of racing

utter nonsense

Kipkurgat ran 1'43.91 solo in '74 final just shy of 1'43.7 of marcelo of HT

the commentator of 1'43.91 said wind cost him WR

Kipkurgat said his huge 1'44+ in semis tired him too much for final despite nearly breaking it in final

you clearly were hardly born in '74

you clearly have no clue about 800

No world class 800m coach would ever recommend four or five days of light jogging before an important 800m race

utter nonsense

you woud do if chasing a pb in zurich or brussells or rome

don't ever insult this board claiming "firenze" in same calibre meet...

No, he's absolutely right in this case, because you aren't running absolutely all out when you know you have three more intervals at the same pace ahead, and it's just a workout. He did have a bike pacer, though--uncertain about the wind help there.

However, in calling Nick Willis's 3:29.66 the fastest ever white boy time (congrats to him on beating Cram, Coe, and the rest, of course), he is overlooking one native Spaniard, Fermin Cacho, low 3:29, as well as all of those of North African origin, El Guerrouj, Morceli, Taoufik, Iguider, the drug cheat Ramzi (whose low 3:29 in 1986 wasn't stricken from the books), and maybe one or two other guys, all of whom by American definitions would count as white (e.g. persons whose ancestry is from Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, and so on).