Tebow is Done!

jjjjjjj wrote:

The fact that the NFL's best player evaluator up in New England gave him a chance suggests that he's pretty good. He didn't make the team because that's the best team in the league, but he can play for ten other teams in this league at least.

If there is anyone who could capitalize on a players' versatility, it is Belichick and the fact that he passed on him shows that Tebow playing QB in the league is pure fantasy at this point.

Tebow should just do what Doug Flutie did. Go to the CFL, get a few yrs under his belt and then come back to the NFL.

jjjjjjj wrote:

The fact that the NFL's best player evaluator up in New England gave him a chance suggests that he's pretty good. He didn't make the team because that's the best team in the league, but he can play for ten other teams in this league at least.

Not as a QB. He would be in Jacksonville if that were the case.

jjjjjjj wrote:

The fact that the NFL's best player evaluator up in New England gave him a chance suggests that he's pretty good. He didn't make the team because that's the best team in the league, but he can play for ten other teams in this league at least.

Tebow is just no Jimmy Garoppolo is what you're saying.

Boston College wrote:

Tebow should just do what Doug Flutie did. Go to the CFL, get a few yrs under his belt and then come back to the NFL.

Good comparison. Flutie lacked the attributes of an NFL quarterback, except for one -- he could find a way to win.

Tim is a more than capable NFL quarterback as evidence by his 8-8 record as an NFL starter. While those are not great numbers, they are very good for someone in their first 16 starts (including 1 playoff victory). He will never be a great passer, but he has definitely improved as a passer compared to his camp with New England, and the statistics bear this out. He is better than many quarterbacks in the league when it comes down to wins and losses (his 8 wins in 16 starts is almost equal to the 9 wins Jacksonville has in the past three seasons). The idea that his is a worse player than someone cut from Jacksonville is laughable and is likely more a function of the Eagles not wanting to deal with the distraction that would likely come when Bradford inevitably goes down with another injury and Sanchez middles his way through a couple of mediocre games. The difference between Tebow and most of the backups in the league is most of the backups are game managers who might be able to get a win or two while your starter is out, but will never win you a game. From watching Orton for two seasons in Denver it became obvious that Orton (like many prototypical NFL quarterbacks) was a game manager who could get you a win if he had a lead going into halftime, but could never spark a team to victory when playing from behind. Tebow has the ability to get you a win as evidenced by his 4th quarter QBR while in Denver and his impact on the running game (McGahee needs to send Tim a thank you card for getting him to Hawaii). Even in the NFL passing is not as important as people like to think when it comes to mobile quarterbacks (if you need proof, simply look at the Seattle Seahawks who have the least number of pass attempts in the NFL over the past three seasons, while at the same time boasting the greatest number of 4th quarter comebacks).

CFL

jjjjjjj wrote:

The fact that the NFL's best player evaluator up in New England gave him a chance suggests that he's pretty good. He didn't make the team because that's the best team in the league, but he can play for ten other teams in this league at least.

He had Tom Brady 2nd string & never promoted him- the guy some call the GOAT QB. Only injury allowed Brady to get a 1st string spot.

Brady was a 6th rd pick. Brady took over as the starting quarter back in his second season after an INJURY to Drew Bledsoe, and led the Patriots to victory in Super Bowl.

There's your talent evaluator.

ttc wrote:

He had Tom Brady 2nd string & never promoted him- the guy some call the GOAT QB. Only injury allowed Brady to get a 1st string spot.

Brady was a 6th rd pick. Brady took over as the starting quarter back in his second season after an INJURY to Drew Bledsoe, and led the Patriots to victory in Super Bowl.

There's your talent evaluator.

Although we're getting off topic, I agree with this. The coach that many call a genius is flat out lucky more than anything else. No doubt he is an above average coach, but had he never stumbled upon Brady, we wouldn't be talking about him.

Tebow for president wrote:

...The league is full of terrible qbs Tebow is far from the worst.

Sure, the NFL is full of terrible QBs. And the NBA is full of terrible point guards, and MLB is full of terrible centerfielders. All the good ones go somewhere else, or get jobs as commentators.

Not a genius wrote:

The coach that many call a genius is flat out lucky more than anything else. No doubt he is an above average coach, but had he never stumbled upon Brady, we wouldn't be talking about him.

Hahahahaaa... Think so? Without Brady in 2008 New England posted an 11-5 record. Without Manning in 2011 Indianapolis went 2-14.

POTD Claimer wrote:

Chewbacca wrote:

Hey Tim there's a job opening handing out marriage licenses in Kentucky!

POTD, heck, POTW

It's an elected position and not a "JOB."

Inaccurate wrote:

POTD Claimer wrote:

POTD, heck, POTW

It's an elected position and not a "JOB."

JOB (def): Paid position of employment.

She was not paid?

She was not employed?

That's right, big guy wrote:

Tebow for president wrote:

...The league is full of terrible qbs Tebow is far from the worst.

Sure, the NFL is full of terrible QBs. And the NBA is full of terrible point guards, and MLB is full of terrible centerfielders. All the good ones go somewhere else, or get jobs as commentators.

This ^

It is truly astonishing what so many folks can convince themselves of if it is what they WANT to believe.

So, yeah sure, the only reason that Tebow is not an NFL QB is because of an organized conspiracy against him by NFL coaches and executives. It's not because he sucks.

This Man wrote:

That's right, big guy wrote:

Sure, the NFL is full of terrible QBs. And the NBA is full of terrible point guards, and MLB is full of terrible centerfielders. All the good ones go somewhere else, or get jobs as commentators.

This ^

It is truly astonishing what so many folks can convince themselves of if it is what they WANT to believe.

So, yeah sure, the only reason that Tebow is not an NFL QB is because of an organized conspiracy against him by NFL coaches and executives. It's not because he sucks.

NFL dumped eventual HOF K.Warner, passed on Brady 4X in the draft & put him at backup until injury. Urlacher was a backup OLB until injury.

Yea, the NFL knows what it's doing.

Tebow helped rally the Broncos from a 17–0 deficit at halftime, as he finished the game with 308 passing yards and one touchdown pass. He also added a fourth quarter rushing touchdown.

Tebow rallied Denver from a 15–0 deficit in the last three minutes to win the game 18–15 in overtime.

Tebow led a 95-yard, game-winning touchdown drive with less than six minutes to play, and the Broncos trailing. On third-and-four, Tebow ran for a 20-yard touchdown with less than one minute remaining causing the Broncos to win the game.

Tebow led the Broncos to their third consecutive come-from-behind win of the season, as Denver beat the Minnesota Vikings on the road, 35–32. The following Sunday, Tebow once again guided a comeback victory, this time at home over the Chicago Bears.

Denver hosted the Pittsburgh Steelers during the first round of the NFL playoffs. Tebow threw for a career high 316 yards and two touchdowns, including an 80-yard TD to Demaryius Thomas on the first play of overtime, as the Broncos won 29–23.[116] Tebow completed 10 of 21 passes in the contest, setting an NFL record for yards per completion in a playoff game at 31.6.

After the season, John Elway confirmed that Tebow would be the Broncos starting quarterback going into training camp in 2012 (ruined by future HOF Manning's arrival). Career 17-9 TD-INT & 989 yards.

NFL dumped eventual HOF K.Warner, passed on Brady 4X in the draft & put him at backup until injury. Urlacher was a backup OLB until injury.

Yea, the NFL knows what it's doing.

ttc wrote:

Denver hosted the Pittsburgh Steelers during the first round of the NFL playoffs. Tebow threw for a career high 316 yards and two touchdowns, including an 80-yard TD to Demaryius Thomas on the first play of overtime, as the Broncos won 29–23.

Yes, and then the next week proceeded to look completely lost during a 45-13 drubbing in Foxborough. QBR of 11.8

The Patience wrote:

Inaccurate wrote:

It's an elected position and not a "JOB."

JOB (def): Paid position of employment.

She was not paid?

She was not employed?

No.

Mr True, here are some facts you must have missed;

Tebow’s passing numbers (10-for-19, 97 yards, no TDs) won’t wow anyone. He insisted this week that he’s improved his mechanics, but the rate of progression isn’t nearly fast enough.

NY Daily New September 2, 2015

You see, Mr. True, you cited one game. One. Take his entire career as an NFL QB. Tell me then what you have. Tell me what 99.99% of all his receivers that have played in the NFL with him have said. Funny how you don't put up the reason all NFL teams, ALL have passed on taking him. Some gave him a shot, but none have consider him an NFL QB. None.

Mr. True, one question, please answer as an adult, not a 9 year old.

question; If Tim Tebow is so great, as you claim, then why do all NFL teams, experts and scouts all pass on him? Even ones that need a QB?

I want to know whay all these people that are in the profession of football, some for over 40 years, that would take anyone that will help them win, all pass on taking Tebow.

Please answer.