http://youtu.be/C5wU1hxJHTA
Around the 3:10 mark. He knew it was over 1000m into the race. Love this.
Around the 3:10 mark. He knew it was over 1000m into the race. Love this.
Lenny Leonard wrote:
http://youtu.be/C5wU1hxJHTAAround the 3:10 mark. He knew it was over 1000m into the race. Love this.
LOL! That is fantastic! I thought they had the water in lane 2 or 3, but that was WAY out there. He probably ran a 430 meter lap that lap!
He's just practicing for 2019 WC in Doha, Qatar. They'll need to swig water every lap there.
anyan did something similar in the 2010 Ga State meet 3200m showdown with kirubel errassa. unreal race
Practicing for the beer mile WR.
long lap! wrote:
Lenny Leonard wrote:http://youtu.be/C5wU1hxJHTAAround the 3:10 mark. He knew it was over 1000m into the race. Love this.
LOL! That is fantastic! I thought they had the water in lane 2 or 3, but that was WAY out there. He probably ran a 430 meter lap that lap!
Think you need to head back to junior high for a recap of your maths lessons ;-)
"That's 15:10 pace for 5000 meters, Steve, YOU coulda been keeping up with that"
"...Thanks..."
Assume: water station is at 50m down the track, each lane is 1.22cm wide, mo covered 7 lanes.
Therefore, distance he ran is the 2 x square root of ((1.22 x 7)^2)+(50)^2 = sqrroot(72.93+2500) x 2 = 101.45m, so he ran 1.45m longer that lap.
A little way short of 30m extra!
Let me do that wrote:
Assume: water station is at 50m down the track, each lane is 1.22cm wide, mo covered 7 lanes.
I think it's pretty safe to say the lanes are more than 1.22cm wide.
Let me do that wrote:
Assume: water station is at 50m down the track, each lane is 1.22cm wide, mo covered 7 lanes.
Therefore, distance he ran is the 2 x square root of ((1.22 x 7)^2)+(50)^2 = sqrroot(72.93+2500) x 2 = 101.45m, so he ran 1.45m longer that lap.
A little way short of 30m extra!
I don't even need to do the calculations to know your answer is way off.
nothing new, he did it in the 10k final as well
Let me do that wrote:
Assume: water station is at 50m down the track, each lane is 1.22cm wide, mo covered 7 lanes.
Therefore, distance he ran is the 2 x square root of ((1.22 x 7)^2)+(50)^2 = sqrroot(72.93+2500) x 2 = 101.45m, so he ran 1.45m longer that lap.
A little way short of 30m extra!
If you say he ran 1.45m longer that lap, then why do you say he ran 30m extra overall? He only went to the water once!
Obviously it depends on the angle at which he deviates from the shortest route. He could have turned 90 degrees out to the water and back without making any progress in the direction of the race. That would have added 1.22 * 7 * 2 = 17.08m (assuming the 1.22 is correct).
The correct answer must be somewhere between 1.45m and 17m - probably rather closer to 1.45m
Let me do that wrote:
Assume: water station is at 50m down the track, each lane is 1.22cm wide, mo covered 7 lanes.
Therefore, distance he ran is the 2 x square root of ((1.22 x 7)^2)+(50)^2 = sqrroot(72.93+2500) x 2 = 101.45m, so he ran 1.45m longer that lap.
A little way short of 30m extra!
You may be know the theory of mathematics, sadly you have no common sense. Any idiot can see he ran more than 1.45m further
The main effect was psychological. Everyone was wathcing him do it on the screens. He did the same thing in the 10
This is an interesting forum and it's fun to see what people make a big deal of. Running an extra 1.45m because of a water break, maybe the track is off by 0.15m/100m, or the hardness of the track, which both could explain the records, or someone's acne (diet??) as proof of doping. Then 3 (white) US athletes run in a field with almost solely African (descent) distance runners and no one thinks that is strange! :) There are probably all sorts of reasons for this, one being that north America is benefiting from the sheer volume of 'runners', it is just like Belgium in cycling, 'every' Belgian rides. I think we are in an age where we analyze everything to death and forget about the amazing things we can push our bodies to do. And do some athletes dope, I'm sure they do if they can fool the system. Let's not forget that some US athletes we masters at not getting caught.
The math is right. It is not that much greater of a distance swinging out to the outer lanes on a straight.
The correct answer is "1.45-17m but closer to 1.45m"
Why is it so hard for people on let's run to do 7th grade math?
That's is bollocks, I'm 1.95m tall and I could not fill that space with my bodying in laying on of the track.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Let me do that wrote:Assume: water station is at 50m down the track, each lane is 1.22cm wide, mo covered 7 lanes.
Therefore, distance he ran is the 2 x square root of ((1.22 x 7)^2)+(50)^2 = sqrroot(72.93+2500) x 2 = 101.45m, so he ran 1.45m longer that lap.
A little way short of 30m extra!
You may be know the theory of mathematics, sadly you have no common sense. Any idiot can see he ran more than 1.45m further
The main effect was psychological. Everyone was wathcing him do it on the screens. He did the same thing in the 10
You're right that it was a good psychological move.
You're utterly wrong that the math(s) is wrong. It is 100% right, assuming he ran in a perfectly straight line from the entrance to the straight, to the water (at exactly 50m) and then back to the exit from the straight.
The line he runs is the hypotenuse of a right angled triangle, with the length 50m along the infield side, and 8.54m crossing from the kerb to the water.
So even if he'd run along the kerb, to the 50m point, then deviated in a straight line up to the water and back to the kerb, the max he'd have run was 17.08m. And given that we didn't see him do that, he ran along the hypotenuse instead, we can use Pythagoras' theorum to say that, without a shadow of a doubt, he ran approx 1.45m extra that lap.
Any idiot can presume they are right. Idiots know best, of course.
that calculation is a good demonstration of how not to break to the kerb in an 800.
sqrt(7x1.22^2 + 50^2) = 50.72 an extra 72cm
sqrt(7x1.22^2 + 85^2) = 85.31 only 31cm
sqrt(8.54^2 + 30^2) = 31.19 a whole nuther meter +
The point people are making is that the lanes are not 1.22cm. Like seriously, even the balance beam in gymnastics is 10cm. Using 1.22cm as the lane width to calculate the distance is the fundamental error here, and a ridiculous one.
1.22cm was a typo.
I meant 1.22m - and the calculation stands (1.22m was the figure used in the calculation).
Pythagoras - the square on the hypotenuse equals the sum of the square of the other two sides.
Therefore the hypotenuse (the diagonal line to the water) distance squared = (1.22m x 7)^2 + (50m)^2 = 72.93m2 + 2500m2 = 2572.93m2
Square root of 2572.93m2 = 50.72m.
So the distance to the water is 50.72m, 72cm (or 0.72m) longer than running the 50m in a straight line along the kerb.
Doing that up to the water, and back again = 1.44m.
The math(s) is right. Your intuition is wrong.