Bad runners who train as if they have talent (pseudo-runners).

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There was one marathoner in the 80s or 90s that held a 5k PR of 17:xx throughout High School and eventually became a sub 2:20 marathoner with hard work...

Talented?

No.

Better than you?

Yes.

bananas covered in mustard wrote:

I see this commonly in the corridor. You poke your head out to see the next pack surfing by, and there's always that one lone one off by themselves, praising themselves that they have the goods when the definitely don't. I don't even both to open the door to them.

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bananas covered in mustard = confused as pie

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Everyone's genetic talent is limited. That's the whole point of training, to find that limit.

Some people run 60-70mpw because they enjoy it.

Unless you are capable of making a living from running, why else would someone run 60-70mpw?

If you don't enjoy running you should stop.

bananas covered in mustard wrote:

I see this commonly in the corridor. You poke your head out to see the next pack surfing by, and there's always that one lone one off by themselves, praising themselves that they have the goods when the definitely don't. I don't even both to open the door to them.

What does this even mean?

By the same logic, because you were incompetent and forgot to add "er" to both (both vs. bother), you should give up at life and live the rest of your life as an incompetent idiot with the genetic potential to maybe one day aspire to be janitor at your local middle school, let alone actually getting the job.

Idiot.

to "get" the pyramids and the last 4 seconds

So what... if you put in a little effort, and don't show Olympic promise, you should just quit?

I did give softball a shot in my mid-20s. I played for a church league and a work league (modified - so baseball rules, not slow-pitch). I love baseball, and playing softball is really fun. I worked very hard at it - much harder than anyone should ever work in one of those leagues. I practiced baserunning, I went to the batting cages, I played catch.

I SUCKED. Really, really awful. I'm a pretty horrible sprinter compared to my distance running, but I was still fast enough to bunt and get on base, then steal my way around. If I didn't pull that off, I sometimes struck out. Fielding was painful to watch, I'm sure. I played 2nd base and turned 0.0 double plays in my two years. I didn't have the arm for outfield.

So, I quit - not because it wasn't fun, just because I didn't feel that it was fair to the team to keep dragging them down. I am obviously a 5th percentile baseball player, in terms of raw talent.

What if you were the top banana in the corridor, but you kept slipping on the mustard. Someone pokes their head out to see the pack surfing by, and offers you some androgel , but it turns out to be pseudo-testosterone. Will it help you run that 60-70 miles a week, and realize your talent?

No one’s life is perfect. You’re going to have hurdles, you’re going to have obstacles in life, it’s just the way you bounce back from them. So even if you don't have talent, get out and run that 60-70 miles.

Not sure I understand your point.

So you're saying don't try to be the best you can be?

You'll be a great parent one day.

And what are you considering a bit of talent?

I can't run sub 4 mile in my best/favorite event but I can probably win most half marathons I enter. Should I quit?

Are you saying if we can't qualify for the trials or USA's we should stop running?

How far does your parameter extend?

Americans shouldn't run because they're never going to beat the Kenyans right?

That would make big city marathons so fun to watch:

"Man it's weird, every year just a few days after I do my taxes. I see like 10 african guys run by. Then like a minute later some jogger runs by in a bright yellow singlet that says Brooks. He needs to find a different place to run because he just looks silly on Boylston."

What runner have you met that is insulted by someone else's mileage?

If you're a troll congrats you got me. If you are not then please stop interacting with humans.

The OP is such a flipping askhole, I don't know what to say. Running is fun. If someone wants to run 150 miles a week, but can only manage a 2:30 marathon, so what, as long as they enjoy it? If it takes another 10 years of 140-170 miles a week to qualify for the trials, so what. Guess what, if it weren't for the rest of the field, we couldn't pay those top guys op thinks are the only real runners to even show up in Boston or Chicago.

Everyone is so angry at the OP. He's talking about the guys who claim they could run (and sometimes even tell people...) 13:30 5ks when they really only run 15:30... Or a lot worse. But they'll tell you how their workouts point to 13:30 and always have an excuse when the run 16:00. Nobody is bashing the guys who just love to run. But the guys who just love to run don't tell the world they are the next Olympic gold medalist because they work harder than EVERYONE else. I know a 4:50 miler who brags everyday how he could easily break 4 minutes if he got in the right race. In fact he has convinced himself it's possible It's cool to dream in all but come on...

StopTrollin wrote:

There was one marathoner in the 80s or 90s that held a 5k PR of 17:xx throughout High School and eventually became a sub 2:20 marathoner with hard work...

Talented?

No.

Better than you?

Yes.

I know it's not the main point of this thread, and I get the gist of what the poster above is saying, and "talent" is a 100% relative term, but....because someone may have under-performed or under-trained in HS - or simply were late-bloomers, if that's possible - it absolutely does NOT mean that a 2:19 marathoner could EVER be considered to be "untalented" by any standard that doesn't (dumbly) put the cut-off at world class. I don't care how hard a worker you, if you EVER run a 2:19 on ANY mileage, you did very, VERY well in the parent lottery. A 2:19 puts you in what small fraction of the top 1%? Yeah, a real small one.

sbeefyk1 wrote:

Everyone is so angry at the OP. He's talking about the guys who claim they could run (and sometimes even tell people...) 13:30 5ks when they really only run 15:30... Or a lot worse. But they'll tell you how their workouts point to 13:30 and always have an excuse when the run 16:00. Nobody is bashing the guys who just love to run. But the guys who just love to run don't tell the world they are the next Olympic gold medalist because they work harder than EVERYONE else. I know a 4:50 miler who brags everyday how he could easily break 4 minutes if he got in the right race. In fact he has convinced himself it's possible It's cool to dream in all but come on...

Exaggerate much?

Except the OP never says any of this. It's just your take on his post.