Track Expert wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious what is going on.
Due to actual drug testing now in Jamaica, Bolt is running scared. Meanwhile, Gatlin is on some new and sophisticated program and Bolt knows that he doesn't have a chance in hell of winning.
This. Strangely Yohan Blake is running about .4 secs below his best too.
One of 2 things will happen: Bolt will disappear somewhere where they can't test him and reappear the WCs in 9.5 form; or he will miss the WCs altogether.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7324261/germany-dr-hans-wilhelm-muller-wohlfahrta-great-healer-quack-hyperactive-syringeSciatica Road wrote:
Are you trying to somehow be sarcastic, as the articles you cite do not draw such a bombastic conclusion.
"Healing Hans", like Alberto Salazar, works in a very grey zone, maybe that's because Paula Radcliffe don't say anything about NOP doping scandal.
Because she also was working with Injections and creams.
But long term, the health will be affected.
Look what happened with Ronaldo (not Cristiano Ronaldo,but the Brazilian striker). He now has a bad knee, after Muller-Wohlfart treatments.
Look at Paula. after London, she's unable to do long runs at comfortable pace.
Okay, fair enough, but rather than point this guy out singularly, (since the cases you cite don't strongly suggest it, at least yet) wouldn't it instead make more sense to try and look at the bigger picture of any long-term health effects (consequences) of short-term artificial performance enhancement?
I dunno, maybe KG is hoping to bring suit for long-term health damages?...which engenders the question whether athletes sign various health-related non-liabilty forms when they join-up with the specialized training camps (...eh, sort of what you sign when you enter your local 5k, but with much more legalese).
Ask an ortho wrote:
I'm sick of this posturing. I'm here in Paris, and his mug is all over every poster in the city advertising the event. What a liar. There is no such thing as a "blocked" sacroiliac joint. Ridiculous.
205,000 Google results would suggest otherwise.
why master wrote:
Why does he have to fly to Germany to treat common injuries? I think I'll go to Australia to see a doctor next time I get a cold.
It's probably easier than flying 5,000 miles back to Jamaica
Randy Oldman wrote:
why master wrote:Why does he have to fly to Germany to treat common injuries? I think I'll go to Australia to see a doctor next time I get a cold.
It's probably easier than flying 5,000 miles back to Jamaica
Not to mention "healing hans" with the "hyperactive syringes" is not in Jamaica.
Ask an ortho wrote:
I'm sick of this posturing. I'm here in Paris, and his mug is all over every poster in the city advertising the event. What a liar. There is no such thing as a "blocked" sacroiliac joint. Ridiculous.
Thanks for that highly informative treatise on the function of the spine while running at WR pace. Great stuff.
He's struggling this season and it was obvious from the start that unless he made a remarkable breakthrough he was going to struggle to medal in Beijing. He's the best sprinter of all time and he's been at it for a long time...so something injury wise was bound the happen eventually. Take the year to get healthy and confident again.
Or it could just be his Scoliosis disease taking revenge on his body. That affected joint area is connected to his spine.
Well the man does have Scoliosis.
Or, the report is actually legit. Paula Radcliff uses the same doctor and has been a patient of his over a decade before Bolt, yet nobody accuses her of being a doper. Bolt being born with Scoliosis makes this report even more credible.
Balco wrote:
Track Expert wrote:I think it's pretty obvious what is going on.
Due to actual drug testing now in Jamaica, Bolt is running scared. Meanwhile, Gatlin is on some new and sophisticated program and Bolt knows that he doesn't have a chance in hell of winning.
This. Strangely Yohan Blake is running about .4 secs below his best too.
One of 2 things will happen: Bolt will disappear somewhere where they can't test him and reappear the WCs in 9.5 form; or he will miss the WCs altogether.
Are you high? So over the last 2 years, Blake has had two hamstring injuries & a MAJOR surgery to re-attach the muscle to the bone and you believe the only reason he's running slow now is because he's not on drugs? Wow. Definitely a Victor Conte disciple. Never thought people could be this jaded.
OSU_FAN wrote:
He's struggling this season and it was obvious from the start that unless he made a remarkable breakthrough he was going to struggle to medal in Beijing. He's the best sprinter of all time and he's been at it for a long time...so something injury wise was bound the happen eventually. Take the year to get healthy and confident again.
I think Bolt will be healthy by the time Beijing rolls around. He will compete even if he gets beaten.
Didn't he pretty much take last year off already? Was it a "foot injury" that made him bail on Paris at the last minute too? Wouldn't be surprised if he's DNS in Beijing again. He's got more to lose by getting trashed by Gatlin than not going.
eswallace wrote:
Seems Gatlin is a lock for double gold at Beijing.
Did you forget Miguel Francis with 19.76 in -1.1 wind?
gathernomoss wrote:
Didn't he pretty much take last year off already? Was it a "foot injury" that made him bail on Paris at the last minute too? Wouldn't be surprised if he's DNS in Beijing again. He's got more to lose by getting trashed by Gatlin than not going.
So because he was injured last year (which required surgery by the way) means he can't be injured this year? Really? Bolt will be be in Beijing win, lose or draw. He's not going to let his fans down by being a no show. You do realize that Bolt is born with Scoliosis right? So an injury located at the intersection of the spine & the pelvic joint actually makes sense no? Just saying.
Ben L Wrong wrote:
Sciatica Road wrote:http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7324261/germany-dr-hans-wilhelm-muller-wohlfahrta-great-healer-quack-hyperactive-syringeAre you trying to somehow be sarcastic, as the articles you cite do not draw such a bombastic conclusion.
"Healing Hans", like Alberto Salazar, works in a very grey zone, maybe that's because Paula Radcliffe don't say anything about NOP doping scandal.
Because she also was working with Injections and creams.
But long term, the health will be affected.
Look what happened with Ronaldo (not Cristiano Ronaldo,but the Brazilian striker). He now has a bad knee, after Muller-Wohlfart treatments.
Look at Paula. after London, she's unable to do long runs at comfortable pace.
Come on dude, you can't blame Ronaldo's knee issues on Hans. Scores of Soccer players have there carriers shortened or ended by knee injuries especially if you play in Italy where they are known for their physical play. Plus Dr. Rabin (in the espn link) the WADA scientific director stated that even though Hans methods are unorthodox and not recommended by WADA, there's nothing in it that violates WADA's code. The article even goes on to say that that Hans keeps an open line of communication with WADA. Try again.
"Thank god we can trust you and your letsrun degree to provide us with sound medical advice."
-I'm a physical therapist for 22 years, and work in conjunction with a large group of orthopaedic surgeons in France. So yes, you can trust what I said.
You're new here, aren't you?Paula Radcliff, Albuquerque, "Training in Albuquerque", Leonid Shvetsov, ...
jon doe wrote:
Paula Radcliff uses the same doctor and has been a patient of his over a decade before Bolt, yet nobody accuses her of being a doper.
I was thinking he'd gotten an SI joint corticosteroid injection and the reporter misinterpreted it as the diagnosis. Even though it's not a true nerve block I have heard some folks call it an SI block.