1:49.26...the slowest time for an NCAA Mens Final since 1955. Bleck!!!
1:49.26...the slowest time for an NCAA Mens Final since 1955. Bleck!!!
That is unfortunate. It was a promising field, too...
It was also the slowest 1500 EVER. It was windy.
It WAS a promising field with many other talented runners out of it from the semi. What happened. This is one of the ultimate races.
The last 1600 of the 5000 was at a faster pace than the 1500 (4:08.4 1600m vs 3:54 1500m).
Wind had nothing to do with it. Everyone was just scared and ran this like some 1500. Terrible race
Wind? It was 5-10mph. It was a terrible race even though the 2 fastest guys won. Boring to watch these jog and sprint races. Never going to have international runners with this tactict
...aaaaand the prelims were some of the fastest EVER. did you miss that or something?
If the distance kids wanna jog for 3/4 of the race and leave everything up to a kick, why not just let them race a 200 or a 400 against each other?
You're fooling yourself if you don't think these so-called "tactics" are hurting the sport.
Some on here do not get it.
The best guys in this race could care less what the times are, only fans do.
It is not the obligation of any of THE best guys to run any pace at all...it is that of the others guys if they want to have a chance.
In this case the two fastest guys for the year were 1-2...what is the problem?
The guy who screwed himself into oblivion was McBride...he has never proven himself to be a huge kicker..people still think the fastest guy will be the fastest kicker(even Rawson got caught up in how much slower the first 400 was for McBride than others)..not so, it is the strongest guys and guys than can shift..those were Kemboi and Kidder.
McBride may have gotten swallowed up into the breeze which was stiff enough apparently to effect tactics in three races.. 15, 8 and no one wanted to do anything in the 5 either,
Not all races can be as exciting as this one:
Hoos wrote:
Not all races can be as exciting as this one:
https://youtu.be/FmIgGRX39Co?t=46
I like how Kemboi is in this race.
I don't know why people hate slow races. An 800 is always exciting the last 150. Always. This one was as well.
Race recap here:
rojo wrote:
I don't know why people hate slow races. An 800 is always exciting the last 150. Always. This one was as well.
Race recap here:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/06/distance-recap-edward-kemboi-rides-the-rail-to-victory-in-800-chad-noelle-kicks-best-in-1500-and-anthony-rotich-three-peats-in-steeple/
It's not exciting because they're blatantly NOT TRYING for 3/4 of the race. At least make the pace somewhat honest. Would a football game be exciting if all the players walked around and didn't try for the first three quarters and only went hard in the fourth? Because that's what these races are like.
rojo wrote:
I don't know why people hate slow races. An 800 is always exciting the last 150. Always. This one was as well.
Because it's supposed to be an 800.
McBride finishes way back. Surely he'll wonder what would have been in a race that went at his PR effort, not nearly five seconds slower.
Let this be a note to those who always say "oh, if only Solomon/Jock/Montano would just not go out so hard, they could even-split and run so much better."
WRONG.
A speed-based runner like McBride with 46-flat speed has to split 50.x/54.x or similar. He is not going to go out in 52 and close in 52. He will close in... 54.x off of a slow first lap, same as after a fast first lap. The only difference is a bunch of slower guys will be in it for the kick.
Once in a while a speed guy will "switch it up" and sit a bit for a win against weaker runners, and everyone gets excited. But against real competition it is ALWAYS a mistake for these runners not to put their nose in the wind and keep it there.
Frontrunners got to front run.
Trialswatcher wrote:
Some on here do not get it.
The best guys in this race could care less what the times are, only fans do.
It is not the obligation of any of THE best guys to run any pace at all...it is that of the others guys if they want to have a chance.
In this case the two fastest guys for the year were 1-2...what is the problem?
The guy who screwed himself into oblivion was McBride...he has never proven himself to be a huge kicker..people still think the fastest guy will be the fastest kicker(even Rawson got caught up in how much slower the first 400 was for McBride than others)..not so, it is the strongest guys and guys than can shift..those were Kemboi and Kidder.
McBride may have gotten swallowed up into the breeze which was stiff enough apparently to effect tactics in three races.. 15, 8 and no one wanted to do anything in the 5 either,
Couldn't care less, not could care less. Don't you see how "could care less " is a terrible metaphor for not caring? Why do Americans always say this? It's the fvcking opposite meaning to what they're trying to say.
terwilliger hill wrote:
...aaaaand the prelims were some of the fastest EVER. did you miss that or something?
The prelims were not some of the fastest ever. If you go back 5 years, 1:46.1 didn't make the final.
Kidder was the 2nd fastest qualifier at 1:46.2, that time would have put him 10th.
rojo wrote:
I don't know why people hate slow races. An 800 is always exciting the last 150. Always. This one was as well.
Race recap here:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/06/distance-recap-edward-kemboi-rides-the-rail-to-victory-in-800-chad-noelle-kicks-best-in-1500-and-anthony-rotich-three-peats-in-steeple/
You know what else is exciting for the last 150? The 150.
This, and not PEDS, is why track is dying as a spectator sport.
Why do they always have to run a fast time. I don't know why people get so caught up in time. It is a race for a national championship. Those guys are going to employ what ever tactic they think is best to win, and yesterday everyone thought they could out kick anyone, the last 300. If you want to see fast times then watch the prelims.