AdrianMartinezClassic wrote:
Should he focus on the 800 or direct his attention towards the mile?
Definitely mile/1500. Did you see that closing speed? In championship races, he will literally be untouchable.
AdrianMartinezClassic wrote:
Should he focus on the 800 or direct his attention towards the mile?
Definitely mile/1500. Did you see that closing speed? In championship races, he will literally be untouchable.
Should he focus on the 800 or direct his attention towards the mile?
We sent Jonathan Gault to the meet. He did an incredible job - staying up to 2 am and writing a 3600 word recap of the meet. It's got it all - everything from an interview with Abbey D to a 71-year old World Record holder.
In between, he also talked to Kyle Merber, Desi Linden, McKayla Fricker, Nicole Tully, Ryan Martin, Reed Connor, Hannah Fields, and Robby A.
In honor of Jon's work and the great meet that no one seemed to remember was happening because of the NOP scandal, the Rome meet and Grant Fisher's sub-4, we've changed the title fo this thread. Initially it was just "Robby Andrews 3:57.15 Mile Adrian Martinez Classic."
The full meet recap is here:
Excellent coverage, guys!
Craig Lutz fan wrote:
Excellent coverage, guys!
I agree - great job Jon!
thank you for the coverage!
I agree. Here is a link to the video of the coverage. It was ideal weather for this really nice meet.
http://adrian-martinez-classic.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=9577&do=videos&video_id=146073
Boston36 wrote:
I agree. Here is a link to the video of the coverage. It was ideal weather for this really nice meet.
http://adrian-martinez-classic.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=9577&do=videos&video_id=146073
Why aren't they starting at the Mile Arc line? What is that arc they are starting at?
This was brilliantly done. I was there for the meet and Gault recapped more vividly than when I saw in the flesh. I love when you guys produce super good content like this.
Also, Hoka is great to sponsor these distance meets. Sprinting, jumping, throwing all certainly have their place, but it's wonderful to cater specifically to the interests of the crowd. I wonder if moving forward this will be a more common format within each of the disciplines.
Robby is back? Back to what? I'd call him a long shot for the worlds team, at best,
He isn't even qualified for USATF right?
When did he break 3:56 in mile or 3:39 for 1500?
Those are the actual standards; does he get in because of his creative hair holder now?
Spectator at AMC wrote:
AdrianMartinezClassic wrote:Should he focus on the 800 or direct his attention towards the mile?
Definitely mile/1500. Did you see that closing speed? In championship races, he will literally be untouchable.
Nice race. But :57 finish after 3:00 3/4 is not something to be that excited about. Rupp could probably do it in a track interval, provided Alberto's dope shipment arrived on schedule.
Robby will make the US team. He only went as hard as he had to.
While he is clearly in better form than Wheating, I kind of agree with ttc here.
Running 3:57.x off of 3 flat is not an indicator of that much really. If folks remember he ran 3L57 at Penn a few years ago and season went south from that point.
I would like to see what he can do off more aggressive fractions.. or close in like 53/54 off that at least.
57 .x Andrews style means he probably ran last 220 or 200M in like 27 mid 28 low.
Andrews last 200 was ferocious and seemed like he had more left in the tank if he was able to kick that hard
It would be such a shame if your athletes had people saying things that could ruin their career and reputation. At such a fragile time too. I wonder how that could happen? And if enough athletes have it happen to them, what would the future look like for the program? When in Rome...
Trialswatcher wrote:
While he is clearly in better form than Wheating, I kind of agree with ttc here.
Running 3:57.x off of 3 flat is not an indicator of that much really. If folks remember he ran 3L57 at Penn a few years ago and season went south from that point.
I would like to see what he can do off more aggressive fractions.. or close in like 53/54 off that at least.
57 .x Andrews style means he probably ran last 220 or 200M in like 27 mid 28 low.
Your worry is the same as mine. Robby really needed Oxy to see where he is. Wheating looks fine in a 3:39 race. But what about a 3:36 race? Not so much.
The fact that Jonatahan's description said Andrews was back in the race made me nervous. We know he'll always close but will he get dropped if it's a truly stacked field?
Vig seems to view him as a 1500 guy but it might be safer to run him in the 800, make the team in that and do the 1500 next year.
Either that or get on a plane and get into the DL meet in Birmingham on Sunday.
instead of speculating splits, i took them for him (based on video,using iphone for splits, so not perfect but close enough)
0-409 = 60.62
409-809 = 60.63
809-1209 = 60.62 in good position (3:01.87 at bell)
1209-1409 = 28.7 stuck behind people
1409-1609 = 26.3 runs wide to get out in front then dusts everybody
last 400m = 55.0
the time i got was 3:56.87, official time was 3:57.15 so my reaction took 0.28s. i added that to the first 409m to get these splits:
first 409 60.90
second 400 60.63
third 400 60.62
last 400 55.00
3:57.15
actually a mile PR for andrews according to all-athletics
so pretty fast last lap, going for the PR clearly but not really digging like he would with better competition in that last 80m
I'd say that andrews arguably could run 3:54/3:37ish right now but not much faster. based on this performance alone
it is up to them if they want to make a deal. No point in being on LR and talking about it.
My parents will be able to contact me after I leave. I won't be staying in the same place for long. After you talk with them, they will tell you where I am.
I was there and I, too, would guesstimate he\'s good for 3:54, maybe 3:53 now - just based on what I saw yesterday. Obviously I have no knowledge of what his training looks like.
He started in good position for the first lap, and I was pleasantly surprised to see him positioning himself well early. he employed Centrowitz-like tactics early on. The pace was slowish, however, and as others moved up, he allowed himself to get swallowed up a little bit, maybe falling back as far as 7th or 8th. The whole pack moved on the back stretch of the final lap, including Robbie, and with 200 to go I could tell he was shaping up for a big finish and that he would have a good shot to win, but I didn\'t think he was going to crush them like he did. I was about 30 meters from the finish trackside, and he looked like he was on repeat 5 or 6 of a series of 100 meter repeats. Very impressive the separation he got in the final straightaway.
However, the pace was not that fast. As stated above, whether or not he can do that off of a significantly higher pace is debatable. Certainly he\'s good enough to beat up on a lot of American runners and make easy money like yesterday. So, thanks to him for providing entertainment for fans like myself.