Why would Alberto Salazar ask to see Andy Powell's training logs when I've heard Salazar writes the workouts for UO

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  • ex college coach
    5 years ago 04/03/2015 4:58pm CDT
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    Has anyone seen this article:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2015/04/thursday_morning_news_notes_li_17.html#incart_river

    It says Salazar is so impressed with Powell that he's asked Powell to show him his training logs for indoors as he wants to know what they've been doing.

    Ok, if that's true, how come so many of my ex coaching buddies of mine have told me that after the year Oregon didn't make NCAAs in xc, that they sat Powell down and said, "Ok from now on the workouts are coming from Alberto?"

    Several ex coaching friends told me this. So who is full of it?
  • billy77777777111
    5 years ago 04/03/2015 5:04pm CDT
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    ex college coach wrote:

    Has anyone seen this article:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2015/04/thursday_morning_news_notes_li_17.html#incart_river

    It says Salazar is so impressed with Powell that he's asked Powell to show him his training logs for indoors as he wants to know what they've been doing.

    Ok, if that's true, how come so many of my ex coaching buddies of mine have told me that after the year Oregon didn't make NCAAs in xc, that they sat Powell down and said, "Ok from now on the workouts are coming from Alberto?"

    Several ex coaching friends told me this. So who is full of it?

    Your friends. If they were to be coming from Alberto, then why would they not just hire him? What would be the point of keeping andy?
  • josephfishkin
    5 years ago 04/03/2015 5:05pm CDT
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    Salazar wrote Rupp's workouts when he was at Oregon, but that's it. AlSal has nothing to do with the current Ducks distance crew in terms of day-to-day practice plans.
  • rojo
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    5 years ago 04/03/2015 5:21pm CDT
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    billy77777777111 wrote:

    Your friends. If they were to be coming from Alberto, then why would they not just hire him? What would be the point of keeping andy?

    The point? You still need someone to do what most of college coaching is. Recruiting, manage the team, supervising workouts (pulling the plug is one of the key aspects a coach does), help 18-22 year olds learn to be adults, etc.

    Coming up with the workouts is less than 5% of the work of a college coach. Thankfully I didnt have to worry about that 5% as I had JK be my Alberto.
  • jjjjjjj
    5 years ago 04/03/2015 6:11pm CDT
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    You can write the workouts without knowing what was actually done in those workouts, which is what the training logs show.
  • >>>
    5 years ago 04/03/2015 6:13pm CDT
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    josephfishkin wrote:

    Salazar wrote Rupp's workouts when he was at Oregon, but that's it. AlSal has nothing to do with the current Ducks distance crew in terms of day-to-day practice plans.


    This. I've heard from a few coaches how they would plan and time Rupp's workout. "AlSal wrote Rupp's plan and over walkie-talkie communicated with whoever was timing the workout." That's a direct quote.
  • A Duck
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    5 years ago 04/03/2015 7:00pm CDT
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    >>> wrote:

    josephfishkin wrote:

    Salazar wrote Rupp's workouts when he was at Oregon, but that's it. AlSal has nothing to do with the current Ducks distance crew in terms of day-to-day practice plans.


    This. I've heard from a few coaches how they would plan and time Rupp's workout. "AlSal wrote Rupp's plan and over walkie-talkie communicated with whoever was timing the workout." That's a direct quote.


    Must have been that old cellular company that merged with Sprint and had wide range walkie talkie service...

    As far as someone saying Salazar writes the workouts for Oregon, it sounds to me like someone got it backwards / a game of "telephone."
  • CS503
    5 years ago 04/03/2015 11:57pm CDT
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    The University of Oregon would not hire Alberto because of his negative past (and now current negative accounts).

    Also, Powell is paid by Nike as well so he has 2 bosses :)
  • Or
    5 years ago 04/04/2015 1:22am CDT
    re: CS503
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    Or maybe , yet another crazy letsrun bunch of crap and Alberto doesn't write/plan the workouts.

    I vote for this simple answer
  • Sleazy Al
    5 years ago 04/04/2015 1:53am CDT
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    Or maybe, Salazar if full of himself, an ego maniac, and a major control freak. Salazar's history is well known: wing nut.

    I vote for the obvious answer.
  • another (former) oregon duck
    5 years ago 04/04/2015 11:43am CDT
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    Alberto is not writing the workouts for the Oregon team. Andy Powell has simply tweaked- albeit in a very minor fashion- Vin's program.
  • cbenson4
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    5 years ago 04/04/2015 11:46am CDT
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    Turns out Mary Cain is the mastermind behind the scenes! She's been designing NOP's workouts for years! Salazar just hangs around the Rupp-certified saladbar all day and watches Netflix!
  • Skeptic/Sceptic
    5 years ago 04/04/2015 12:10pm CDT
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    1. Powell has, over time, by his own testimony, called Salazar for advice. He'd be foolish not to: Salazar is a world-class coach and willing to help. In the past it has been a one-way street; but Salazar, like Ancient Rome, has always shown a willingness to learn from others and take what has been successful for them, and thus given Powell's success, Salazar wants to see if there's something in particular he could pick up and use.

    2. Writing workouts for a large group of distance runners, many with different points of focus, some partially injured, some fully healthy, some in great shape, some in lesser shape, etc.--all of this is very time consuming at a place like Oregon, so the idea that Salazar has the time (to say nothing of the inclination) to be writing the workouts for Jenkins on the one hand and Leingang on the other, is a bit insane.
    ex college coach wrote:

    Has anyone seen this article:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2015/04/thursday_morning_news_notes_li_17.html#incart_river

    It says Salazar is so impressed with Powell that he's asked Powell to show him his training logs for indoors as he wants to know what they've been doing.

    Ok, if that's true, how come so many of my ex coaching buddies of mine have told me that after the year Oregon didn't make NCAAs in xc, that they sat Powell down and said, "Ok from now on the workouts are coming from Alberto?"

    Several ex coaching friends told me this. So who is full of it?
  • Det. Victor Mackey
    5 years ago 04/04/2015 8:26pm CDT
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    ex college coach wrote:

    Has anyone seen this article:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2015/04/thursday_morning_news_notes_li_17.html#incart_river

    It says Salazar is so impressed with Powell that he's asked Powell to show him his training logs for indoors as he wants to know what they've been doing.

    Ok, if that's true, how come so many of my ex coaching buddies of mine have told me that after the year Oregon didn't make NCAAs in xc, that they sat Powell down and said, "Ok from now on the workouts are coming from Alberto?"

    Several ex coaching friends told me this. So who is full of it?

    Your "ex-coaching" friends are full of it, if this even happened at all. I suspect you're full of s_h_i_t.
  • ukathleticscoach
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    5 years ago 04/04/2015 11:23pm CDT
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    Too see if he completed them all and times run for reps came to me after about 2 seconds
  • sponsor c
    5 years ago 04/05/2015 2:26am CDT
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    Sober up coach.