Zantephilia wrote:
But the downside of [especially] the v2 is that the outsole is gone in no time! The sole in the lateral forefoot region is completely gone after 250 miles, I am running on the white stuff already.
This is the reason I stopped running in New Balance shoes. They were all I ran in for years but at some point they changed the composition of the outsole and it wore down way too quickly for me.
The Altra Torin/Instinc is the best of the new shoe designs. So simple yet it puts the foot in the most efficient position .
I got burned on the Altra "The One" original version. It fit completely off and the sizing was way off (too small). My second toes were black blistered after a ten miler. It definitely didn't conform to standard Brannock device sizing. Never went back. They may have fixed their problems, but I'm hesitant to retry them. Should I? Did you try "The One"?
toejob wrote:
The Altra Torin/Instinc is the best of the new shoe designs. So simple yet it puts the foot in the most efficient position .
bump to request 2017 update/comparison with new Zante v3 (did they redeem themselves after the mess with the v2 ?) and the the new 1400v4
ie. which would you pick for HM distance, 1400v4 or Zante v3
Add on to that bump a request for a comparison of the 1400v4 to the old Brooks T6 and T7. Brooks came out with this Hyperion horsesh--.
https://www.solereview.com/new-balance-fresh-foam-zante-v3-review/zante zante zante wrote:
bump to request 2017 update/comparison with new Zante v3 (did they redeem themselves after the mess with the v2 ?) and the the new 1400v4
ie. which would you pick for HM distance, 1400v4 or Zante v3
So I'm using the Zante originals, now the Zante v2 has v2 on the outside is that correct? If the original Zantes are better than v2 & v3 and I live near a new balance clearance store which currently has them for $42 should I buy a couple of pairs and sit them aside?
Anybody notice the one problem with the Zantes and that is doing a tempo on a wet or misty day on asphalt, they simply have no grip. Otherwise they are epic shoes.
Anyone tried the Boracay?
I have run in NBs for the last four years and they are my favorite shoes. I started from the Minimus line and loved the 10MR shoes. The Vibram outsoles lasted forever and I could get 500+ miles on them.
When they dumped the MRs and introduced Fresh Foam I tried the Boracay first. Even though it had a 4mm drop it was very detached from the ground. It felt like running in Hokas. I didn't like it.
I've since landed in Zantes and Vazee Paces. They seem very similar with not too much cushion and a 6mm drop.
HOWEVER, New Balance HAS to do something about their outsole material. It is absolute CRAP. I underpronate and I run the Zantes and Paces down to the foam after just 200 miles. I usually have a third shoe I rotate in to my workout from a different brand and they never wear out this quick (Adidas and Saucony).
If NB could put those Vibram outsoles on all their shoes they'd be the best on the market.
PWRunner wrote:
I have run in NBs for the last four years and they are my favorite shoes. I started from the Minimus line and loved the 10MR shoes. The Vibram outsoles lasted forever and I could get 500+ miles on them.
When they dumped the MRs and introduced Fresh Foam I tried the Boracay first. Even though it had a 4mm drop it was very detached from the ground. It felt like running in Hokas. I didn't like it.
I've since landed in Zantes and Vazee Paces. They seem very similar with not too much cushion and a 6mm drop.
HOWEVER, New Balance HAS to do something about their outsole material. It is absolute CRAP. I underpronate and I run the Zantes and Paces down to the foam after just 200 miles. I usually have a third shoe I rotate in to my workout from a different brand and they never wear out this quick (Adidas and Saucony).
If NB could put those Vibram outsoles on all their shoes they'd be the best on the market.
Ditto. I abandoned NB because of the shitty outsoles.
PWRunner wrote:
I have run in NBs for the last four years and they are my favorite shoes. I started from the Minimus line and loved the 10MR shoes. The Vibram outsoles lasted forever and I could get 500+ miles on them.
When they dumped the MRs and introduced Fresh Foam I tried the Boracay first. Even though it had a 4mm drop it was very detached from the ground. It felt like running in Hokas. I didn't like it.
I've since landed in Zantes and Vazee Paces. They seem very similar with not too much cushion and a 6mm drop.
HOWEVER, New Balance HAS to do something about their outsole material. It is absolute CRAP. I underpronate and I run the Zantes and Paces down to the foam after just 200 miles. I usually have a third shoe I rotate in to my workout from a different brand and they never wear out this quick (Adidas and Saucony).
If NB could put those Vibram outsoles on all their shoes they'd be the best on the market.
Yeah, man, after about 200 miles everything is done! It is my favorite shoe, and they don't need to be broken in. They feel so good up to about 187 miles, and then after that, the shoes just can't provide proper midsole and sole support. You will start to feel slight aches in your calves and on the side of your heels. If you're a supinator, and I am a supinator, they'll degrade even quicker.
The cool thing about it is I relegate them to grass running and track running after the soles and midsoles have degraded.
However, even though they are a great shoe, I'm tired of running in them. They are a go to shoe for me, so if I can't find another superior running shoe to run in, I know the zante will always be there.
The fresh foam is just simple EVA foam with nothing added to it. It's not a dual foam, where EVA is mixed in with something else. Just a layer of EVA, which is why it breaks down so quickly.
The 1500v3 has great grip, if they only put that on the Zantes and Boracay etc they would be great beyond comparison. I would challenge any one to find a better dollar for dollar shoe than the Vazee Urge. A lot of shoe for US$29 (where I live anyhow). I'm looking for a replacement for my heavy adidas trainers with the boost (which is mediocre) might go for the Vongo or 1080, any takers?
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
The 1500v3 has great grip, if they only put that on the Zantes and Boracay etc they would be great beyond comparison. I would challenge any one to find a better dollar for dollar shoe than the Vazee Urge. A lot of shoe for US$29 (where I live anyhow). I'm looking for a replacement for my heavy adidas trainers with the boost (which is mediocre) might go for the Vongo or 1080, any takers?
Yeah, dude the Vazee Urge is nice. I love the drop on them, and they are cheap, too! They are just too heavy. I bought a pair, and even though they felt great, I still felt as if I was carrying the shoe as oppose to running in the shoe.....I returned them.
I must say the Adidas Mana bounce 2 are quite awesome as a cheap, durable performance trainer. Bounce feels incredible. I tried on a pair, and the midsole provide good return and snap. MY only issue is that they don't appear to breathe well, and the mesh has a plastic feel to it. ...However, the midsole and sole( so much glorious rubber) gave me that sweet feeling when you know a shoe is going to work for you. I might pick up a pair, still debating
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H66XUIY/ref=twister_B01MXLVA3U