Lying about times

They don't think anyone cares enough to check up on it. Or at least that is the answer someone gave me when I asked her why she lied about something easily verifiable on the internet. So out of every 10 people the runner lies to, maybe 9 will believe it and be impressed. So he wins esteem, even if one person calls his bluff.

You missed your calling as a detective, Sleuthy McGee

48.50 IS NOT THAT FAR FROM SAYING YOU ARE 47-48

Gonna be 8 wrote:

48.50 IS NOT THAT FAR FROM SAYING YOU ARE 47-48

No, but the school record of 48.50 was from 1987 and he did his times between 2003-2006.

I managed to figure this information out by reading the post.

the internet wrote:

Why do people lie about their times? Especially in the Internet age, when it is so easy to research this information.

Some of you are complete idiots. Why do you get so upset over something like this and go into detective mode out to prove that someone is lying? It's quite possible that the guy's meet times weren't officially recorded or that he ran them in practice with a legitimate timing method, but just never had a good race. I have witnessed several such occurrences in sprinters and distance runners.

Everyone is not out to lie to you. Why don't you ask him instead of assuming he is lying?

nordicmama wrote:

They don't think anyone cares enough to check up on it. Or at least that is the answer someone gave me when I asked her why she lied about something easily verifiable on the internet. So out of every 10 people the runner lies to, maybe 9 will believe it and be impressed. So he wins esteem, even if one person calls his bluff.

Yeah, unless you are the vice presidential candidate...

No, the guy was clearly out to lie. He claimed that he ran times that he obviously never ran. He even added details, such as a race being wind-aided. Furthermore, he claimed he ran at the National Championships. And on top of that, concocted a story that he slipped out of his blocks. What sane person not only lies, but then adds in rich details.

I knew almost everyone that ran the 100 at nationals around that time and didn't remember him. He was a friend of a friend and I politely didn't question him when it was somewhat apparent he wasn't telling the truth. It actually makes sense to see if our paths ever crossed.

So the problem isn't with the people confused why someone would lie, the problem seems to be with the person that has to make up these stories. And it seems like a lot of people do this. And no one is impressed. Anyone that would understand track times has enough common sense to tell when people aren't telling the truth.

Again it seems as stupid to lie about track times as it would about your occupation or publishing a best selling novel.

I used to hang out in the Runner's World forums and this one dude -- his alias was bamarunner11, I believe -- claimed he ran 16-something in a local 5k, and even provided the name of the race. Well, I looked it up and the WINNER only ran a 19-something, so I called him out on it publicly. The next morning I woke up to a menacing private message from him, and I've never used the RW forums again. It's all hobbyjoggers anyway.

The older I get, the faster I used to be.

Find a old guy and he may tell you about a 100 he ran in a darn impressive time, but it will turn out to be 100 meters rather than 100 yards.

If you graduated high school in the early 2000s or before, chances are that almost all of the meets you ran in were hand timed, so sprinters will often give a windy hand timed "PR". Even worse, sometimes they will mentally adjust their college times to what they would have been had they been HTs (maybe even subtract a tenth or two for what the could have done with a better start).

Distance guys aren't much better since they'll give out PRs from aided or short XC or road courses as PRs, or come up with all types of excuses for why their track bests are so slow.

Throwers and jumpers may give you the story of the long foul that they once threw or that big jump they had in practice.

You really shouldn't call someone out though...not ALL results are online (or 100% accurate). just because you can't find it, doesnt mean it didn't happen

Who cares? Do something better with your time you tiny loser.

NCAA Rule 4-1: Misconduct is any act of dishonesty, unsportsmanlike conduct, unprofessional or breach of law occurring at the locale of the competition or warm-up that discredits the event or intercollegiate athletics. Misconduct includes the intentional reporting of false marks for entry purposes. Acts of misconduct are subject to reprimand or ejection by the referee or meet management.

I know your post is about people lying about times after they "retire" but this aspect is also very heavy by coaches putting in wrong marks for their athletes and disregarding the NCAA rule.

I just Google your story and you are lying.

lol Now I'm curious what he said to your in the pm. Did he admit he lied and explain why or did he dig into the lie further or just got mad you called him a liar?

I truthfully tell people I once ran a 43”, but the Internet got accidentally deleted that day.

Several such occurrences? Been in the sport for 30 + years and haven’t seen that. Practice times don’t count. And official meets are the only ones that matter.

Many years ago, a guy in a suit approached me at an airport, showed me a DL with a San Jose address and told me he had trained and raced with Lee Evans, Tommie Smith and John Carlos. I would have been impressed with that alone, but he went further by claiming he had won the 400m Bronze at L.A. I mentioned that I saw the race in person and the 3rd place guy was from Australia and not San Jose. We kicked that around for awhile before he ended the conversation by saying I obviously didn’t have experience with talking to black people. My HS was about 99% white so maybe he was right. Anyway, I didn’t find out what he had planned to sell me.

Julius Junios Nixon is in the HOF Class of 2019 and they have him as a 1:08 half marathon. No way , No how, no results.