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Growing up where I did, if you ran sub-10, you were known by just about every 800-3200 runner in your conference. Most of the time, you have to committed to your training to get to that point, so it created a sort of instant camaraderie with other people who were at that level. Usually at that point you start having the confidence to genuinely talk to the other known guys about training, and join them for warm-ups, cool-downs, etc.
Plus running two miles in 10 minutes is hard. 99.9% of people can't do it.
Lenny Leonard wrote:
Growing up where I did, if you ran sub-10, you were known by just about every 800-3200 runner in your conference. Most of the time, you have to committed to your training to get to that point, so it created a sort of instant camaraderie with other people who were at that level. Usually at that point you start having the confidence to genuinely talk to the other known guys about training, and join them for warm-ups, cool-downs, etc.
Plus running two miles in 10 minutes is hard. 99.9% of people can't do it.
Because it is sort of a point to where a lot of these kids start to take their training seriously.
Breaking 11 for 3200m is impressive
Breaking 10 for 3200m is good
Breaking 9 for 3200m is epic
slowmanrealist wrote:
Breaking 11 for 3200m is impressive
Breaking 10 for 3200m is good
Breaking 9 for 3200m is epic
I wouldn't say that breaking 11 for 3200 is impressive.
No one thinks it is impressive. Many just know they are the only one in their school that can do it.
At my son's HS there are 4 kids who could do it if they ran it during XC. One of them is much better, county champion. Of the other 3, one ran it as a freshman and sophomore but hasn't run it in 18+ months and now runs the 800. The other two only run the 800 when XC ends. None will ever break 2 but 3X 2:00.X with good handoffs and a 1:53 anchor wins the state meet.
There are 4 more who could have done it but they would have had to train like they were in college.
Because it is impressive...
^%lkndfv930 wrote:
None will ever break 2 but 3X 2:00.X with good handoffs and a 1:53 anchor wins the state meet.
7:53 wins state? Do they race against 8th graders that pitiful for a high school state meet.
^%lkndfv930 wrote:
None will ever break 2 but 3X 2:00.X with good handoffs and a 1:53 anchor wins the state meet.
7:53 wins state? Do they race against 8th graders that pitiful for a high school state meet.
Because it is an impressive accomplishment.
I remember the first time I did it. 9:53.
It was a time trial at night and I had a pacer. It seemed so, so hard. I was really in pain.
A few weeks later I ran 9:35 in a race and it felt easier but the 9:53 I'll never forget.
Running a Sub 5 minute mile is hard enough as it is, and if you have done that you already some good natural ability. It DOES take talent to break 5 in the mile.
Now doing TWO back to back sub 5 minute miles (or 4:50/5:09 depending on how you pace for 3200) is a different animal. At that point, your mile should be around 4:35-4:41. Really puts the difficulty of a 15:30 in perspective seeing how it's a 9:58 for 2 miles and ANOTHER mile afterwards.
Now your question is...is it impressive? The answer depends on how you see it. A Sub 10 3200 is extremely impressive to someone who say...runs a 11:30, and you're basically a God to the *average* person. Relative to an average person/runner, A Sub 10 for 2 miles is very impressive without a doubt, but relative to a field of State runners, you're just another runner, especially if a 9:59 puts you in last!
It's really also depends on the school as well. It's sort of a big fish in a small pond kind of thing. If you're the ONLY kid in your school who runs a 9:59 then people are going to see you as a beast, but if you're on a powerhouse school where sub 10 barely makes varsity, then you're another runner. You're a small fish in a big pond.
Another thing is, are you impressed? You set a goal to break 10, and you put a lot of hard work into doing it and you finally get a 9:5X for 3200, are you impressed with yourself? Even if that put you last, you reached your goal and you should be proud. It takes a lot of talent to be able to break 10 in 3200 and the average person can't do that if the talent isn't there.
Nice memories wejo. I was an 800/1500 guy and only rarely ran 2 mi. So in a small dual I ran 9:44 and remember being as excited about that as my first sub 2:00.
And it is a solid accomplishment. I am currently coaching a group of boys around 9:20 for 3k. They work hard and were very proud when they broke 9:20.
regards.
I ran 9:58 in the penultimate meet of my high school career. I remember going through the mile in 4:57-4:58 and having my mind blown that I ran sub-5 in the mile and still felt like I could dish out another mile at that pace.
Most kids on the entire distance squad could not break 5 in the mile. (Believe it or not, the majority of runners can't do this.) Everyone on our varsity squad could do so with plenty of daylight, but I'd say on a squad of 20-25 kids, about 7-8 of them could do it could break 5.
The people on the team that could break 5 twice in a row was a different matter. Only one other guy could do it.
I think it's a solid accomplishment that has to be taken into perspective. Yes, there are plenty of people in the state that can easily run faster than that, but for the most part, it takes a fair amount of skill to do so.
I just understand how some kids from around my area sign to go Division 1 in NCAA when they only have run 9:30s for the 3200m and 4:20s for the mile, I guess some Colleges have started to settle for mediocre talent now days.
midwestdcoach wrote:
I just understand how some kids from around my area sign to go Division 1 in NCAA when they only have run 9:30s for the 3200m and 4:20s for the mile, I guess some Colleges have started to settle for mediocre talent now days.
I think you meant to say "Don't understand"
I don't understand how you made it through grade school with grammar like that.
On topic I believe for kids in weak states like the Midwest or the South breaking 10 minutes puts them in the top 10 during the regular season, so they think they are good for being "up there" during the races... Foolish
Most boys breaking 10 minutes haven't been running for very long and have been doing low mileage, so it's an indication that they might have potential in the future. And as others have mentioned, the vast majority of high school boys can't.
OP is someone that must be slightly under 10 and is humble bragging.
Unless you're Daniel "7:20" Komen, there's always someone faster. How about 7:58 bro? Twice. U Mad?
Breaking 10:04 will qualify you for the state meet in 1a where i live. Yes it is impressive to make state
TannerD22 wrote:
Breaking 10:04 will qualify you for the state meet in 1a where i live. Yes it is impressive to make state
Pretty weak state