https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCEYmHcs2so
How fast was his last 100m? I can´t see the 100m starting line.
How fast was his last 100m? I can´t see the 100m starting line.
9.57. Mate no-one cares.
That was naaaaaasty.
elmore345 wrote:
Mate no-one cares.
No, YOU don´t care, moron. I care.
How many replies have you had answering your question? Exactly.
lol -brilliant! Yeah what the f is that thread about?!
this thread turned mean and nasty even BEFORE Ventolin showed up. very poor prognosis for this soecific subject, I'm afraid.
U.N.O. wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCEYmHcs2soHow fast was his last 100m? I can´t see the 100m starting line.
I think this race was posted by me! Can't check as I'm on my mobile.
Using other markers (110/ 90m), I worked out his last 100 was 11.9.
eh ???
the 1st wide-angle shot is at 1'36.7s, 10.3s from finish
where are 110/90m markers ?
ventolin^3 wrote:
eh ???
the 1st wide-angle shot is at 1'36.7s, 10.3s from finish
where are 110/90m markers ?
At 1:36.7 Coe is level with a small line on inside of lane 1, which forms a V shape with the dotted line going to the 100m start.
Grippo is directly behind him at the 90m from home line. Grippo reaches the same mark as Coe at 1:37.1. So it takes Grippo 0.4sec to reach this point, meaning Coe would have been on the 90m line at 1:36.3.
1:47.0 - 1:36.3 = 10.7 for last 90m.
10.7/90 x 100 = 11.88. Call it 11.9.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCEYmHcs2soThat's a lot of fast white guys
The smell bad English trolls are back.
the 80's must have been weird, skinny white guys and mullets everywhere.
Some lunatic wrote:
That's a lot of fast white guys
Its a lot of E_ _ is what it is.
Deanouk wrote:
At 1:36.7 Coe is level with a small line on inside of lane 1, which forms a V shape with the dotted line going to the 100m start.
Grippo is directly behind him at the 90m from home line. Grippo reaches the same mark as Coe at 1:37.1. So it takes Grippo 0.4sec to reach this point, meaning Coe would have been on the 90m line at 1:36.3.
1:47.0 - 1:36.3 = 10.7 for last 90m.
10.7/90 x 100 = 11.88. Call it 11.9.
Help me understand... I'm not taking issue with you... But when we first see the track straightaway on the final turn its at 136.7 with dotted lines defining the straight. behind them on the turn are lines which I assume are for the purpose of setting hurdles for the 400m Hurdles. that location would be 110 meters from the finish (35 meters between hurdles and 40 meters to finish from the last hurdle) It would indicate that they were about 100 meters at start of straight. However, that doesn't make sense in general and I don't know this tracks markings well enough to know if this seems accurate. Are you fairly certain that your call of that being the 90meter line is good? how do you know it is actually 90 meters?...or is that the most reasonable guess?? 10.3 is obviously TOO fast to be reasonable.
these videos wrote:
Some lunatic wrote:That's a lot of fast white guys
Its a lot of E_ _ is what it is.
EPO didn't exist in 1981.
Seb´s was ~1.22,3 at 600m. His final time was 1.47,02, and now when I look his last curve, he basically did his change of pace jutst before the last 100m, which made the difference. Look carefully, the surge is clear just before the straight and suddenly the race is over. But for the statistics I cannot say more than that he ran his last flying 200m at ~24,7seconds, and maybe his last 100m was ~11.9secs. By the way, Coe´s last 100m in the Moscow 1500m was 12,1seconds, not too shabby either.
The next question would be, how fast Coe was in the 100m or 200m events? Did he ran official races at these events, no. My guess is that you don´t run a 46,87 400m without a capability to run under 11 secs 100m ability. I think that 10.9-11.1 was Coe´s 100m speed, have to remember that he wasn´t fast at the start of the sprint race. And all the time he was ready for a FAST 3-15k race.
In October 1978, Coe displayed impressive endurance for an 800m runner by winning a four-mile road-race in Ireland in 17:54, defeating Eamonn Coghlan (1983 World 5000m champion) and Mike McLeod (1984 Olympic 10000m silver medallist), and breaking Brendan Foster's course record of 18:05.
Seb Coe had some multi-tier ability, how is this challenged by nowadays youngsters? Not good enough, I think. I would like to know how fast Rudisha could have been at 1500m etc. He was faster than Seb at 400m, was that the difference? You need some endurance to fully use the speed.
U.N.O. wrote:
My guess is that you don´t run a 46,87 400m without a capability to run under 11 secs 100m ability. I think that 10.9-11.1 was Coe´s 100m speed, have to remember that he wasn´t fast at the start of the sprint race.
PS. I could imagine that 10.9 could have been possible for him after an optimal start, but 11.1 would be probably closer his limits from the blocks.
Old Runner wrote:
Deanouk wrote:At 1:36.7 Coe is level with a small line on inside of lane 1, which forms a V shape with the dotted line going to the 100m start.
Grippo is directly behind him at the 90m from home line. Grippo reaches the same mark as Coe at 1:37.1. So it takes Grippo 0.4sec to reach this point, meaning Coe would have been on the 90m line at 1:36.3.
1:47.0 - 1:36.3 = 10.7 for last 90m.
10.7/90 x 100 = 11.88. Call it 11.9.
Help me understand... I'm not taking issue with you... But when we first see the track straightaway on the final turn its at 136.7 with dotted lines defining the straight. behind them on the turn are lines which I assume are for the purpose of setting hurdles for the 400m Hurdles. that location would be 110 meters from the finish (35 meters between hurdles and 40 meters to finish from the last hurdle) It would indicate that they were about 100 meters at start of straight. However, that doesn't make sense in general and I don't know this tracks markings well enough to know if this seems accurate. Are you fairly certain that your call of that being the 90meter line is good? how do you know it is actually 90 meters?...or is that the most reasonable guess?? 10.3 is obviously TOO fast to be reasonable.
Yes, it was the 90m line that Grippo was on at 1:36.7 into the race.
If you freeze the race at 39.0 secs, you can see the 100m mark in lane 1 at the end of the water jump. Coe must go past in about 39.7 - 40 secs.
If you freeze the race again at 43.0 secs, you can see the markers for 100m in each of the lanes behind the runners.
So that 100m section from 300 - 400m was about 15.0 for Coe, as the bell was reachd in 54.8. Which looks about right, as they slow down considerably entering the home straight for the first time. He hits 500m in 1:09.2, so that was a 14.4 100m.
He hits 600m in 1:22.3/1:22.4. So that back stretch was a 13.1. It's only at this point that he starts to change pace. This means his last 200m is 24.6/24.7, and he clearly speeds up in the home straight, so his last 100m is faster than his penultimate one. 24.6 / 2 is 12.3, so his last 100m is faster than that.
At 1:36.7, Coe is a couple of strides past the 90m line, Grippo is on the 90m line, and another guy in blue is on the 100m line.
Grippo takes 0.4 to get from the 90m line to where Coe was at 1:36.7. Therefore Coe's time at 90m would have been 1:36.3, giving him a last 90m of 10.7, which equates to 11.9 for 100m.
He was actually faster in the semi competition held the previous month that year, when he finished a 1:47.5 in 11.3.
U.N.O. wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCEYmHcs2soHow fast was his last 100m? I can�t see the 100m starting line.
Thanks for sharing the video link. The 80s were indeed a strange time. Ads around the track for Marlboro cigarettes and Johnny Walker liquor, just what every health conscious track fan wants after a race.