A question?
I know that 1968 was the first year of the Men's Olympic Trials marathon when it was held at the altitude of Alamosa, CO to simulate conditions for Mexico City.
What were the qualifying times for the trials in:
1968
1972
1976
1980
1984
1988
1992 2:20
1996 2:20-2:22
2000 2:20-2:22
2004 2:20-2:22
Just a guess - the first handful didn't have qualifying times. Didn't George Young just show up and run? Billy Mills, too?
I'm looking through my copy of "The U.S. Olympic Trials, 1908-1992" (old version, not the updated version now available through USATF) and it notes that 1972 was the first time athletes qualified through time alone instead of from meets. One page lists the qualifying marks for each event for each OT since '72. . . except for the marathon and the walks.
Crap.
Come on, where is Hodge or some 70's guys?
Yeah that link had a lot of great info on, the winners, etc., but looking for the actual qualifying times?
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Duh. Next page in the same book:
"For 1972 onwards it was determined that all fields have a minimum of 24 athletes (except fro the 100 to 400 plus 110h - where the minimum number was 32), so in the 1972 Hammer for example, 58.14 was the low qualifier. Standards of 2:20:00 for the marathon, and 1:35:00 for the 20kW were applied."
So the standard was always 2:20:00. In '68 I guess it was just showup & run -- I paged through my copy of "The Self-Made Olympian" but I couldn't find any place where Ron Daws told how he qualified for the '68 OT.
Mark wrote:
A question?
I know that 1968 was the first year of the Men's Olympic Trials marathon when it was held at the altitude of Alamosa, CO to simulate conditions for Mexico City.
What were the qualifying times for the trials in:
1968
1972
1976
1980
1984
1988
1992 2:20
1996 2:20-2:22
2000 2:20-2:22
2004 2:20-2:22
In 1968-1972 I don't think there was a standard to run in the trials. I'm not positive about 1972. In 1976 it was 2:23 if my memory serves; I tried to qualify and failed. I'm pretty sure that in 1980 the standard was 2:19 and change (it was based on the 100th time the year before the standard was set). There weren't "B" standards yet. I don't remember '84 or '88 standards.
Someone told me that one year it was 2:24 andother year 2:28 in the 70's. However that was just their thoughts.
This should do it for you:
http://www.usatf.org/store/showProductDetail.asp?item=OLYTRLS-04
Marathonr wrote:
This should do it for you:
http://www.usatf.org/store/showProductDetail.asp?item=OLYTRLS-04
"the world’s greatest track meet outside the Olympics and World Championships"
Yeah Right!
Unless they're using the word 'world' like you do in your 'world' series in Base Ball etc - i.e just America.
If my memory is correct, I can add 1980 and 1984 to the list>>>>
1968
1972
1976
1980 2:21:53
1984 2:19:04
1988
1992 2:20
1996 2:20-2:22
2000 2:20-2:22
2004 2:20-2:22
UK Runner wrote:
Marathonr wrote:This should do it for you:
http://www.usatf.org/store/showProductDetail.asp?item=OLYTRLS-04"the world’s greatest track meet outside the Olympics and World Championships"
Yeah Right!
Unless they're using the word 'world' like you do in your 'world' series in Base Ball etc - i.e just America.
Im too lazy to look at the link but if its referring to the US trials in general theyre probably right. Track meets are not just distance meets. Sprints, throws, jumps..didnt we get just a few medals in these not to mention the trials posting world leading marks in some?
qualifying times instituted in 1972 but can't remember standards
I think that it was 2:30 but keep on checking.
Hi,
The Marathon trials standards (Eugene, Oregon for 1972 was 2:30. I ran a 2:28:53 to qualify at age 21. I was rated #95 out 100 qualifers for that race. We started with three laps around Hayward Field track and then a loop around town.It was warm that day (75 degrees) as I was one of 33 DNF's. Shorter and Moore tied for the victory in 2:15. There where no funding for travel/lodging/food. You where on your own! The 1968 marathon trials were held in Alamosa, CO and there was no standard. George Young ( 1968 3000 S/C bronze medalist) ran and beat all the marathoners at 7,000 feet. The 1976 and 1980 race standards were 2:23. I tried to qualify for both, but came close in 1980 with a PR 2:25:54. Ciao.
i think i may have run vs you Bob Darling - u from Cal (maybe no cal) somewhere?
Im too lazy to look at the link but if its referring to the US trials in general theyre probably right. Track meets are not just distance meets. Sprints, throws, jumps..didnt we get just a few medals in these not to mention the trials posting world leading marks in some?
The only events where you may have a point are the 100, 200 and 400. Thats 3 out of 18 events - hardly a whole meeting.
Having said that though, the golden leagues and most of the GP 1's have as good if not better line up in the sprints. E.g. the London GP has to have 2 heats it packs so much tallent into the 100. And that usually includes all the best US sprinters.
And then there's the Commonwealth Games and the European Championships, which are leagues above the US trials as far as the meeting as a whole goes.
Okay,
I think we now have the standards established:
1968 no standard
1972 2:30
1976 2:23
1980 2:23
1984 2:19:04
1988 2:20?
1992 2:20
1996 2:20-2:22
2000 2:20-2:22
2004 2:20-2:22
2008 ?