watching world class female 400m hurdler train and wonder why no 800s in winter or early season? The strength needed for the barrier event and the 800 would to me seem very similar.
watching world class female 400m hurdler train and wonder why no 800s in winter or early season? The strength needed for the barrier event and the 800 would to me seem very similar.
That's an idea. It may also work the other way around.
Brandon Johnson
USA/World Rankings and Personal Bests
2013: Outdoor bests -- 800m, 1:43.84 (No. 3 in the USA, No. 8 in the World, ranked No. 3 in the USA by T&FN)
2012: Outdoor bests – 800m, 1:46.23
2011: Outdoor bests – 400m hurdles, 54.64
2009: Outdoor bests – 400m hurdles, 50.12
2008: Outdoor bests – 400m hurdles, 48.68
2007: Outdoor bests – 800m, 1:50.85
Being a 400H guy, and coming from more of a speed background, I found that 800's made me feel sluggish. My stride felt out of sync, almost like I was over striding and reaching for the barriers rather than sprinting and attacking. I always preferred fast, high volume intervals (i.e. fast repeat 300/400 x 8-10 and 4-5 minutes rest). Then, once a week throw in plyos and olympic lifts. Granted, I was not world class but it did get me to a collegiate national level.
I agree that they should in the early season.
Except that the 400 hurdles are a technical event and they want to use any race they can to work on their steps in race conditions.
400 hurdlers are much too accustomed to running in lanes. Too much of a mental shift to congregate on the inside lanes on the second lap of the 800. And they'll all be kicking each other
German Schmid 47 sec hurdler ran 1:44, Even Moses has PR of 1:48. David Patrick was national champion. Seems strange that females that can't make Olympic finals not try something different. Same old stuff returns the same old results.
dsmond wrote:
German Schmid 47 sec hurdler ran 1:44, Even Moses has PR of 1:48. David Patrick was national champion. Seems strange that females that can't make Olympic finals not try something different. Same old stuff returns the same old results.
What's strange about that? They choose to compete in the event that they like. Seems weak to give up and do a different event.
I know, I know wrote:
400 hurdlers are much too accustomed to running in lanes. Too much of a mental shift to congregate on the inside lanes on the second lap of the 800. And they'll all be kicking each other
They do it every time they run 400 indoors.
Op
You are right, many 400m hurdlers would make great 800m runners. So would plenty of others.
However, I still argue that the 800m is the hardest event in track. No comparison. Therefore, many others who are experienced in track know this and shy away from the pain and guaranteed getting walked in the 2nd lap for a few races until the race is learned and training for it appreciated and endured over a good amount of time.
Kriss Akabusi
44.93 1988
47.82 1992
1.48.2 1985 (he only ever ran a couple)
Brian Whittle
45.22 1988
50.91 1993
1.45.47 1990
Did Akii Bua ever run the 800? The way he kept on going in Munich and his style of training would have made that interesting.
Men 800 Meter Run
Name Year School Seed Finals H# Points
1 Jackson, Bershawn Unattached 1:52.00 1:54.08 1
2 Davidson, Dustan Unattached 1:54.84 1:57.86 1
3 Johnson, Onyx Morgan State 1:52.89 1:57.91 1
4 Bomkamp, Matthew Unattached 1:59.00 1:58.34 1
5 Dutch, Johnny Unattached 1:59.42 4
6 Torrance, Jarrall Unattached 1:59.64 4
7 Thompson, asureus Unattached 1:59.66 4
8 Cato, Roxroy Unattached 1:59.94 4
9 Pigues, Christian Unattached 1:58.00 2:00.03 1
10 Findley, adrian Unattached 2:00.25 4
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