I am currently looking at the 2 mile section of the third edition and the sixty miles per week and I don't get it at all there are know exact days and the q1 things don't make sense can someone debrief me on what is going on please
I am currently looking at the 2 mile section of the third edition and the sixty miles per week and I don't get it at all there are know exact days and the q1 things don't make sense can someone debrief me on what is going on please
You do three 'Q'uality days a week. You pick the days. The rest of the days are 'E'asy runs.
Try reading the whole book and not skipping to the end lol. If you read the whole book and still don't get it read it again!
justtryingtomakesense wrote:
I am currently looking at the 2 mile section of the third edition and the sixty miles per week and I don't get it at all there are know exact days and the q1 things don't make sense can someone debrief me on what is going on please
A guy named Jack Daniels has a much better book. Give him a try instead of
Daniles.
ithinkyoumayhaveareadingwritingdisorderbutimnotsure.
Oh please.
Daniels is all about working out at current paces until they feel easy, then letting race fitness naturally show itself.
For instance:
R pace is about current mile race pace
I pace is about current 5k pace (will be closer to 3k pace for slower runners)
T Pace is about 1 hour race pace (1/2 marathon pace for fast runners, closer to 10k pace for slower runners
M Pace is marathon pace for faster runners. I don't know what it comes out to for slower runners
E pace is easy/conversational pace.
The Q sessions call for you to hit one of these paces in your workouts. The rest of the days are easy.
The Q sessions are mostly determined by your target events.
Not all Q sessions have the same emphasis at the same time of the season and only one of the Q sessions per week are really big/bad/tough sessions. The other ones are there to support the main session of the week.
The toughest Q session will be tied to overall training goals for a given point of the season. For instance early in the season, a miler would probably be focusing on longer and stronger intervals. the main session of the week might be 1k intervals at a volume of up to 8% of weekly mileage. The other Q session would be easy reps (200s and 400s at current race pace with close to full recovery) and a tempo session of up to 8% of weekly mileage.
I think that sums it up. But, as said before, you need to read the whole book first.
I was at a very small (15 people or so) discussion with Daniels back when he was at Corltand.
He made his plan simple- to apply to high school. Here is basically what he said:
Start by building a base- summer for a high school kid- just go out and run mileage.
Then start with the Tempo runs- I send my kids on "hard day" runs 3 times per week when practice starts in the middle of August. We do 3 or 4 weeks of this on hilly courses, pre-measured with target times based on a combination of age/ability/ and a team history of running these courses.
Then move into hills- repeats to build hamstring strength.
Then to the track- longer repeats and intervals dropping the distance and interval as the season progresses to the target race(s).
He drew this out on a chalk board.
I don't understand why you need a complicated book- I've never read his books, although I want to.
I HAVE had parents mention V-Dot and all that but I have 50-60 kids on my team and I'm the only coach, I use current race times as a guide for target times.
I'd say he's in a state of da-nile.
fred wrote:
justtryingtomakesense wrote:I am currently looking at the 2 mile section of the third edition and the sixty miles per week and I don't get it at all there are know exact days and the q1 things don't make sense can someone debrief me on what is going on please
A guy named Jack Daniels has a much better book. Give him a try instead of
Daniles.
If you have the book and you look at 2 mile section at 60 mile week and phase 1 q2 on the third edition what does he mean with all of the numbers i mean that seems like alot of miles to do in one day so what does it actually mean
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You just need to build up your tolerance.
Start with one shot during intervals at first and then build from there.
All he did was copy Lydiard, except for the hill bounding.
Good training concept that has worked for many and it's easy to follow.
Too easy to follow, and that is the only problem I have with "Formula" training.
On more than a few occasions I have seen a coach run the "Q" workout with his/her athletes regardless of how they feel, state of recovery, or weather because that is what the schedule says.
You can easily ruin a race or a season if you are not flexible.