TCU and Baylor out! Ohio State in!

Same reason TCU had to play Boise State a few years ago. $$$$$$$$$$$$

It was easier to justify leaving TCU out since they don't have a conference championship. Condoleezza finally made the right call though.

Go Noles!!!!

That is a cop-out. I don't care much about TCU, Baylor, or OSU, but this was clearly done to avoid picking between TCU and Baylor.

You can't tell me that the OSU team that lost by 2 touchdowns to Virginia Tech, went to double OT with Penn St, squeaked past Minnesota, and is playing their 3rd string QB is a title contender.

jewbacca wrote:

That is a cop-out. I don't care much about TCU, Baylor, or OSU, but this was clearly done to avoid picking between TCU and Baylor.

You can't tell me that the OSU team that lost by 2 touchdowns to Virginia Tech, went to double OT with Penn St, squeaked past Minnesota, and is playing their 3rd string QB is a title contender.

YES------YES--------YES

You are exactly right. The Big 10 was a horrible conference this year and should NOT be rewarded. Being the best in the Big 10 is like being the most popular on the short bus.

Urban Meyer is a genius. He knows that he will win the Big 10 every year and it will forever be a much easier path to a National Championship.

you're right. If this is about choosing a title contender Ohio State doesn't deserve to be in the top 4.

Just watched the Ohio State lovefest on ESPN. Never once was it mentioned that Kirk Herbstreit was a quarterback for Ohio State. I don't think the casual fan would know that. He was going on about how Ohio State's out of conference schedule was much harder than TCUs. Only problem is Ohio State lost to Virginia Tech. TCU drilled Minnesota. The funny thing is when TCU played Minnesota, no one thought TCU at the time was any good. They were picked to be 7th in the Big 12.

Yet the shitty TCU team was still a 17 point favorite over Minnesota. That is how bad people thought the Big 10 was/is.

I can see how Ohio State gets in, but never once did they mention the Penn State game went to 2 overtimes. I didn't know that. They should have drawn one of the 3 names out of a hat. I live in Ft. Worth and I think most TCU fans thought TCU would get jumped until the Committee decided to put them #3 last week. That threw everyone off.

Alabama squeaked by lowly Arkansas: 'bama should have lost that game. They lost to Ole Miss, which was skunked by lowly Arkansas: 0-30. Alabama needed OT to beat over-hyped LSU. 'Bama feated on three OCC cupcakes: Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss, and West Carolina. Six of 'bama "victories" came against these three cupcakes, plus three "weak" SEC East teams.

E$pn got the matches that will maximum their investment in the SEC. OSU v. Alabama will be a bigger money maker than Oregon v. FSU. The preferred final game for E$pn is Alabama v. Oregon.

bama slama wrote:

Alabama squeaked by lowly Arkansas: 'bama should have lost that game. They lost to Ole Miss, which was skunked by lowly Arkansas: 0-30. Alabama needed OT to beat over-hyped LSU. 'Bama feated on three OCC cupcakes: Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss, and West Carolina. Six of 'bama "victories" came against these three cupcakes, plus three "weak" SEC East teams.

I've felt the same way about Alabama and the SEC all season: Overhyped. I watched the Bama/Mizzou game yesterday and softened my opinion. They are a good team. Not perfect, but good. However you feel about Alabama, Nick Saban is a great coach and I expect them to beat Ohio State. I was hoping to see them play TCU since I think the Frogs would win that game. Too bad.

Hey guys, it isn't a college playoff. It's the ESPN reality TV series.

How does the committee dink FSU all year for shaky wins, then bumps them up after another not so great win. Meanwhile, TCU smokes an opponent and drops three spots. The selection committee is worse than the bowl coalition. And it doesn't matter what school the announcers went to, they're not selecting the teams. When there aren't set criteria for what is being looked for, you get this mess. Turns out four may be the worst possible number. Eight is probably the sweet spot. The real contenders will be there, maybe an undeserving team would get in but at least all the real players are there. 16 and too many fools are in. Not saying more eliminates bitching (look at Big Dance) but at least the real contenders get in. But this is the first year, see how it goes in the future. I'd expect more of the same.

Inconsistency make the committee look like fools.

Until the NCAA consolidates divisions into an even number of regional divisions (probably eight), and only allow respective champions into a playoff, we really won't have a true playoff and national champ.

The CFB shenanigans continue.

wejo wrote:

Yet the shitty TCU team was still a 17 point favorite over Minnesota. That is how bad people thought the Big 10 was/is.

Shit.

Sixteen is the best answer. Eliminate the conference championships. Allow teams to play 11 (min) or 12 (max) games.

Another necessary change is to limit the cupcakes. A team can only schedule one FCS team per year, if they want to be considered for the final 16. Schedule more than one cupcake, then that team is out of contention.

...and at least one team from every conference gets in the final 16. A maximum of three teams from any conference can get in.

...and finally, eliminate neutral field games. Require teams playing each other OCC to play each other's fields in consecutive years.

Name brand football my man. Did you expect anything else?

wejo wrote:

Yet the shitty TCU team was still a 17 point favorite over Minnesota. That is how bad people thought the Big 10 was/is.

I can see how Ohio State gets in, but never once did they mention the Penn State game went to 2 overtimes. I didn't know that. They should have drawn one of the 3 names out of a hat. I live in Ft. Worth and I think most TCU fans thought TCU would get jumped until the Committee decided to put them #3 last week. That threw everyone off.

I'm a Minnesota fan, and I'd be the first to tell you they were nothing more than a solid, well coached team that was lucky to play in such a shitty conference.

What I don't understand is why Alabama and Oregon were basically shoe-ins. Alabama definitely looked mortal plenty of times this season. I think they would beat Baylor or TCU on a neutral field, but it would be completely unsurprising if Alabama lost to either of those teams. The committee should've put FSU number one and drawn lots on live TV for the other three positions.

The truly appalling part is that Texas or Oklahoma would've been in the final four if they had Baylor's resume. Nothing's changed from the previous sham system ($$$ is all that matters). If a fortune teller told the fans ahead of the season that Alabama, Baylor, Ohio State, Oregon and TCU all finished the season with identical records and nearly identical resumes but only 3 would make the playoffs, we all could've easily picked which three would get in.

The Big 12 needs to can their commissioner immediately. If the conference had any spine, it would file an injunction on behalf of TCU being passed over after being rated ahead of both OSU and FSU for the past two weeks. TCU won by a combined score of 103-13 over Big 12 opponents during those two weeks and they were still passed in the rankings. That also never would've happened to a name brand program, including FSU or OSU. Baylor always should've been ahead of TCU, but once the committee chose TCU as the third best team, I do not see substantial evidence to support them being passed by any of the other three teams. FFS, Michigan State and Mississippi State traded places in the final rankings WITHOUT PLAYING. I'd love to hear the committee leader explain that to a good attorney under oath.

If the Big 12 had a great leader, all the Big 12 teams would show up to the bowl games, collect the checks and play their 4th string/walk-ons the entire game or punt on every offensive play. If they did that, there would be an 8 team playoff with each conference champion automatically included by next season.

Actually they already signed a contract that states the playoff will only have 4 teams for x amount of years. I forget exactly how many but I think it is 8 years. So your protest would likely only make most people lose respect for the competitive spirit on those teams.

As others have already said, the only reason OSU is in, is so the committee didn't have to justify choosing TCU over Baylor or Baylor over TCU.