• ThisIsGettingBoring
      • Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/24/2014 9:22PM
      • ThisIsGettingBoring
      • How long has it been there, 10 years? More? Why doesn't it rotate regions? I don't pay much to running anymore, but I would really enjoy watching a national championship. Unfortunately, I live on the east coast and while traveling to an area near Boston, NY or DC would be fine with me, I'm not about to T.H.

        Does anyone feel the same way?
    • Shoe Tree
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/24/2014 10:01PM - in reply to Louisville or bust
      • Shoe Tree
      • Sorry like it or not Terre Haute is the best place for the meet. Until another school puts up the facility, money and effort that Terre Haute does the meet shouldn't go anywhere else.

        I bet if Terre Haute was home to a (big 5) school it wouldn't be an issue.

        Get over it.... Small school, small town.....kicks ass when it comes to putting on good championships.
    • terrible haute
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/24/2014 10:49PM - in reply to Shoe Tree
      • terrible haute
      • Shoe Tree wrote:
        Sorry like it or not Terre Haute is the best place for the meet. Until another school puts up the facility, money and effort that Terre Haute does the meet shouldn't go anywhere else.

        I bet if Terre Haute was home to a (big 5) school it wouldn't be an issue.

        Get over it.... Small school, small town.....kicks ass when it comes to putting on good championships.
        No one cares who the host school is! Terre Haute is a pit! The course isn't bad (although not the greatest spectator layout), but the twon has gotta be one of the worst to ever host the meet. Certainly one of the worst college towns around.
    • 26mi235
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 1:32AM - in reply to terrible haute
      • 26mi235
      • Wisconsin's course it certainly on par with Indiana States; hopefully it will end up there one of these days. Over time they will probably have more of the infrastructure that Indiana State has. Do not underestimate the value of all the resources that Indiana State has, including an army of knowledgeable and dedicated people that help run the meet - somewhat comparable in cross what Oregon has in track and field. I think that Madison is a bit more of an interesting place to hold a meet than Terre Haute, though.
    • Distance Express
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 7:44AM - in reply to 26mi235
      • Distance Express
      • Madison doesn't have the parking that TH has. That would be the biggest issue.
    • wait tom
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 8:28AM - in reply to ThisIsGettingBoring
      • wait tom
      • ThisIsGettingBoring wrote:
        How long has it been there, 10 years? More? Why doesn't it rotate regions? I don't pay much to running anymore, but I would really enjoy watching a national championship. Unfortunately, I live on the east coast and while traveling to an area near Boston, NY or DC would be fine with me, I'm not about to T.H.

        Does anyone feel the same way?
        It doesn't rotate from region to region because the only fair location is in the center of the country. Have it on either coast and you'll have everyone from the opposite coast moaning about having to fly all the way across the country.
    • Ole Timer
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 8:29AM - in reply to ThisIsGettingBoring
      • Ole Timer
      • Indiana is centrally located. It's easy to get to and relatively cheap for flights and lodging. It's a day's drive for a huge chunk of the United States.

        Putting meets on the east and west coasts makes travel longer and far more expensive.
    • q3498nV
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 9:11AM - in reply to Ole Timer
      • q3498nV
      • Terre Haute is equally bad for everyone. It is hard to be more fair than that. They may try a few other places but it will keep going back as long as TH is interested.
    • Wisco Fan
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 9:24AM - in reply to q3498nV
      • Wisco Fan
      • If the meet continues to be run on a Saturday, it will never be run in Madison. Like it or not, the AD won't mess with Big 10 football.
    • Wolfpack
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 9:49AM - in reply to Wisco Fan
      • Wolfpack
      • Florida State wants the national meet. Big bucks have gone into improvements at Appalachee Regional Park. Hosted high school state championships last three years, and this year's southeast NCAA region. Speedway course---so-so viewing.
    • NCAA Watcher
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 10:03AM - in reply to Wolfpack
      • NCAA Watcher
      • Having been to 18 of the last 20 D1 NCAA Cross Meets. TH is hands down the best venue. Wisconsin has a nicer running surface and is a nicer college town, but the course is not as spectator friendly, especially when the crowds are large, and lacks onsite parking, which can be remedied with their shuttle buses. Moving the meet back to Monday is something that really should happen. Attendance has been down the last few years with the D1 Meet on Saturday, and more class time is missed than is necessary.

        Also, shocked that the meet is going back to Louisville...disappointed in that!
    • Badger Miles
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 10:07AM - in reply to Wisco Fan
      • Badger Miles
      • Wisco Fan wrote:
        If the meet continues to be run on a Saturday, it will never be run in Madison. Like it or not, the AD won't mess with Big 10 football.
        The Badger Football Team does also play some away games...so having the meet on Saturday could happen some years. Moving the meet to Monday and to Wisconsin would be a nice option, although I think they got a half a foot of snow yesterday!
    • Noottttreallllly
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 11:22AM - in reply to Wolfpack
      • Noottttreallllly
      • Not really The womens course fot 6k at ARP at FDU is 5875m aka 125m short which is why it posts unusually fast times....
    • Shorty McCoursey
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 11:46AM - in reply to Noottttreallllly
      • Shorty McCoursey
      • Noottttreallllly wrote:
        Not really The womens course fot 6k at ARP at FDU is 5875m aka 125m short which is why it posts unusually fast times....
        Most courses are short, they just are honest and actually list the measured distance.

        Everyone runs the same course, so I really don't care, but it is interesting that so few people understand or realize this.[quote]Noottttreallllly wrote:
    • rojo
      co-founder
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 11:50AM - in reply to Ole Timer
      • rojo
        co-founder
      • Ole Timer wrote:
        Indiana is centrally located. It's easy to get to and relatively cheap for flights and lodging. It's a day's drive for a huge chunk of the United States.

        Putting meets on the east and west coasts makes travel longer and far more expensive.
        I've never understood what all of you said has to do with anything? For several reasons.

        1) The NCAA pays for ALL travel for the team. All of it. So cost is irrelevant (unless you are talking about spectators).

        2) Why does it matter if it's centrally located? Last time I checked the track meet is held in Eugene. That's far from Centrally located. The West coast kids can just leave a day earlier.

        But back when I was coaching,I heard coaches say, "We can't have it on the East coast." I just thought that was stupid. When I was in college, they had it at Lasalle. Why not again? It's a good spectator course.

        Let me end by saying I think Terre Haute does an amazing job. And the course is amazing for spectators. But I get why people are bored with it. It's the same thing with track in Eugene. People like variety.
    • xxxx
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 11:51AM - in reply to NCAA Watcher
      • xxxx
      • Louisville as an XC course for spectating is absolutely horrible. Was disappointed to see it hosting again.
    • priorities.......
      • RE: Can we get NCAAs out of Indiana? 11/25/2014 12:00PM - in reply to xxxx
      • priorities.......
      • You people are CRAZY. The best donuts in the WORLD are made by Square Donuts in Terre Haute. That alone is a good enough reason to have the meet there the next 20 years.

        Whoever said that course is not spectator friendly is also CRAZY.

        Louisville and Terre Haute are about the same distance for me so if somebody could point me to a great Louisvile donut shop, I would appreciate it.