Top Frosh at Regionals

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  • Albert Camus
    5 years ago 11/14/2014 8:37pm CST
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    **Men only. No indication of true freshman status.**
    BEST USE OF YEARLINGS AWARD GOES TO WISCONSIN

    SOUTH CENTRAL
    6 George - Ark
    12 Becker - Lamar
    13 Pickle - Texas

    MID WEST
    5 Curtis - Iowa St
    27 Prisner - Tulsa
    31 Hardwick - Iowa St

    SOUTH
    4 Tobin - Miss
    11 Pienaar - So Al
    14 Guillorel - Sam

    SOUTHEAST
    13 Templeton - Furm
    24 Chase - Vir
    28 Koech - Lib

    NORTHEAST
    10 Kirui - Iona
    15 Bennie - Syr
    19 Deluca - Corn

    MOUNTAIN
    11 Mock - Co St
    34 Fischer - Co St
    35 Harper - BYU

    MID ATLANTIC
    30 Galassi - Duq
    35 DiSilvio - Penn St
    49 Russell - Penn St

    WEST
    11 Rafla - Bois
    20 Neumann - Or
    40 Wharton - Stan

    GREAT LAKES
    14 Hardy - Wis
    15 McDonald - Wis
    17 Hirsch - Wis
  • 26mi235
    5 years ago 11/14/2014 11:54pm CST
    re: Albert Camus
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    3 14 Joe Hardy FR 30:38
    4 15 Morgan McDonald FR 30:38
    5 17 Carl Hirsch FR 30:38
    6 ( 21) Ryan Kromer FR 30:41

    going four deep in the Great Lakes - and they are all Wisconsin, and their #1 and #7 were Sophomores...
  • Coach K's cousin
    5 years ago 11/15/2014 7:20am CST
    re: Albert Camus
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    The only 2013 Foot Locker finalists on this list are Hardy, Hardwick and Templeton.
  • Lobstah
    5 years ago 11/15/2014 7:44am CST
    re: Coach K's cousin
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    Coach K's cousin wrote:

    The only 2013 Foot Locker finalists on this list are Hardy, Hardwick and Templeton.

    And Dan Curts from Iowa State.
  • Gtuybggbybyg
    5 years ago 11/15/2014 10:06am CST
    re: Albert Camus
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    Knight, the true freshman from Syracuse, did not run (rested). He surely would have been top 15 in his region.
  • cyclonenation
    5 years ago 11/15/2014 10:27am CST
    re: Gtuybggbybyg
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    Dan Curts from ISU is a true frosh, 30:16 in first 10k!
  • Coach K's cousin
    5 years ago 11/15/2014 10:30am CST
    re: Lobstah
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    Sorry for the Curts oversight. Hope he keeps up the high Maine standards set by Bruce Bickford, Colin Pedie and Ben True.
  • Jbgbhjbijx cbij cx
    5 years ago 11/15/2014 12:28pm CST
    re: Coach K's cousin
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    Interesting to see that there are only 2 Africans on this list...
  • Ftvftvgyvgyvgy
    5 years ago 11/15/2014 6:17pm CST
    re: Albert Camus
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    Albert Camus wrote:

    **Men only. No indication of true freshman status.**
    ...

    NORTHEAST
    10 Kirui - Iona
    15 Bennie - Syr
    19 Deluca - Corn

    ...

    Is this the same Gilbert Kirui who won a crosscup even in Belgium in 2012 as an 18 y.o.? If it is, then I'm not sure we should count him as a true freshman

    Bennie is a RS freshman

    Deluca is a true freshman.
  • Albert Camus
    5 years ago 11/15/2014 7:25pm CST
    re: Ftvftvgyvgyvgy
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    For the sake of comparison here are the women's stats:

    South Central 6-12-13
    Mid West 7-11-14
    South 17-20-24
    South East 14-24-26
    North East 10-23-27
    Mountain 1-11-13
    Mid Atlantic 5-9-11
    West 3-4-13
    Great Lakes 13-27-29

    Pretty similar placings to the men with the noticeable exception being the Mountain win by New Mexico's (RS) Alice Wright. There may have been more if some didn't decide to do the pro thing.
  • Doodfromafrica
    5 years ago 11/15/2014 7:35pm CST
    re: Jbgbhjbijx cbij cx
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    Jbgbhjbijx cbij cx wrote:

    Interesting to see that there are only 2 Africans on this list...

    I see at least 3.

    Koech - Lib
    Kirui - Iona
    Pienaar - S. Al
  • Cctfvfytfyyft
    5 years ago 11/16/2014 7:45am CST
    re: Doodfromafrica
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    Doodfromafrica wrote:

    Jbgbhjbijx cbij cx wrote:

    Interesting to see that there are only 2 Africans on this list...

    I see at least 3.

    Koech - Lib
    Kirui - Iona
    Pienaar - S. Al


    Pienaar is a South African. I see him being closer to a Brit than an African. However, you are right, he is from Africa, so yes, that would be 3. Not sure if I qualify him as a true freshman. He is not a RS freshman in XC, since he only started University in January, so this is the first time that he could have competed in XC. However, he has been running with the a university for over 10 months...
  • trFo
    5 years ago 11/16/2014 8:14am CST
    re: Cctfvfytfyyft
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    Pretty ignorant trash. Pienaar would clock you upside the head. He's a pure African and proud to be African. Nothing British about him.
  • Doodfromafrica
    5 years ago 11/16/2014 8:39am CST
    re: Cctfvfytfyyft
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    Jbgbhjbijx cbij cx wrote:

    Pienaar is a South African. I see him being closer to a Brit than an African. However, you are right, he is from Africa, so yes, that would be 3. Not sure if I qualify him as a true freshman. He is not a RS freshman in XC, since he only started University in January, so this is the first time that he could have competed in XC. However, he has been running with the a university for over 10 months...

    Pienaar is a South African so he is African, period. I am a fellow South African (white if you are curious) and I consider myself an African and actually take it as an insult if you think I am a Brit. If you choose to use your ass backwards reason he would actually be closer to Ducth than a Brit being as though his family are of Afrikaans heritage.
    He is a frosh regardless if he has been competing since January and as the title says, TOP FROSH.
  • panties in a bunch
    5 years ago 11/16/2014 8:48am CST
    re: Doodfromafrica
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    Calm down. When he is talking about Africans he is talking about East Africans. You know the ones that dominate the distance world? Last time I checked when people are referring to those "Africans" that steal all the white man's glory they aren't referring to South Africans....
  • Yyggbgybyggyb
    5 years ago 11/16/2014 8:56am CST
    re: trFo
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    trFo wrote:

    Pretty ignorant trash. Pienaar would clock you upside the head. He's a pure African and proud to be African. Nothing British about him.

    No trash intended here. He ran great. He also seems to be progressing really well in So. Al., which is great.

    What I meant was that he may be closer to being a European from a genetics point of view than being a Kenyan or Ethiopian for example...

    Not taking anything away here from South Africans. That was never the intent...
  • Vvtfvfttfvfvt
    5 years ago 11/16/2014 10:10am CST
    re: Yyggbgybyggyb
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    BTW: the other 2 "freshman" in Pienaar's (born in 1995) region...
    Tobin (Ireland), who was born in July 1994, also ran track for the University in 2014, so it's not his first season racing for the team either.
    Guillorel (France) was born in Jan 1994 (but I believe that it's his first season with the team). He will be 21 in a couple of months.
  • RunSpokane
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    5 years ago 11/16/2014 10:49am CST
    re: 26mi235
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    26mi235 wrote:

    3 14 Joe Hardy FR 30:38
    4 15 Morgan McDonald FR 30:38
    5 17 Carl Hirsch FR 30:38
    6 ( 21) Ryan Kromer FR 30:41

    going four deep in the Great Lakes - and they are all Wisconsin, and their #1 and #7 were Sophomores...

    And they are sitting out Kai this season. Crazy group of Freshman at Wis!
  • Every form of refuge has it's
    5 years ago 11/18/2014 9:12pm CST
    re: RunSpokane
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    The top 5 from Pre Nats and Wisconsin (which was a 10k):

    ***PRE NATIONALS***
    18 Mock - Co St
    28 Green - G Town
    42 Neuman - Or
    43 Templeton - Fur
    48 Tobin - Miss

    ***WISCONSIN***
    14 Hardy - Wisconsin
    15 McDonald - Wisconsin
    17 Hirsch - Wisconsin
    21 Kromer - Wisconsin
    30 Andresson- E Mich

    It will be interesting to see who the top finishers will be on Saturday. Probably not going to see 3 in the top 10 like last year (1. Cheserek, 8. Saarel, 9. Tiernan).