**Men only. No indication of true freshman status.**
BEST USE OF YEARLINGS AWARD GOES TO WISCONSIN
SOUTH CENTRAL
6 George - Ark
12 Becker - Lamar
13 Pickle - Texas
MID WEST
5 Curtis - Iowa St
27 Prisner - Tulsa
31 Hardwick - Iowa St
SOUTH
4 Tobin - Miss
11 Pienaar - So Al
14 Guillorel - Sam
SOUTHEAST
13 Templeton - Furm
24 Chase - Vir
28 Koech - Lib
NORTHEAST
10 Kirui - Iona
15 Bennie - Syr
19 Deluca - Corn
MOUNTAIN
11 Mock - Co St
34 Fischer - Co St
35 Harper - BYU
MID ATLANTIC
30 Galassi - Duq
35 DiSilvio - Penn St
49 Russell - Penn St
WEST
11 Rafla - Bois
20 Neumann - Or
40 Wharton - Stan
GREAT LAKES
14 Hardy - Wis
15 McDonald - Wis
17 Hirsch - Wis
Top Frosh at Regionals
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3 14 Joe Hardy FR 30:38
4 15 Morgan McDonald FR 30:38
5 17 Carl Hirsch FR 30:38
6 ( 21) Ryan Kromer FR 30:41
going four deep in the Great Lakes - and they are all Wisconsin, and their #1 and #7 were Sophomores... -
The only 2013 Foot Locker finalists on this list are Hardy, Hardwick and Templeton.
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Coach K's cousin wrote:
The only 2013 Foot Locker finalists on this list are Hardy, Hardwick and Templeton.
And Dan Curts from Iowa State. -
Knight, the true freshman from Syracuse, did not run (rested). He surely would have been top 15 in his region.
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Dan Curts from ISU is a true frosh, 30:16 in first 10k!
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Sorry for the Curts oversight. Hope he keeps up the high Maine standards set by Bruce Bickford, Colin Pedie and Ben True.
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Interesting to see that there are only 2 Africans on this list...
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Albert Camus wrote:
**Men only. No indication of true freshman status.**
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NORTHEAST
10 Kirui - Iona
15 Bennie - Syr
19 Deluca - Corn
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Is this the same Gilbert Kirui who won a crosscup even in Belgium in 2012 as an 18 y.o.? If it is, then I'm not sure we should count him as a true freshman
Bennie is a RS freshman
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For the sake of comparison here are the women's stats:
South Central 6-12-13
Mid West 7-11-14
South 17-20-24
South East 14-24-26
North East 10-23-27
Mountain 1-11-13
Mid Atlantic 5-9-11
West 3-4-13
Great Lakes 13-27-29
Pretty similar placings to the men with the noticeable exception being the Mountain win by New Mexico's (RS) Alice Wright. There may have been more if some didn't decide to do the pro thing. -
Jbgbhjbijx cbij cx wrote:
Interesting to see that there are only 2 Africans on this list...
I see at least 3.
Koech - Lib
Kirui - Iona
Pienaar - S. Al -
Doodfromafrica wrote:
Jbgbhjbijx cbij cx wrote:
Interesting to see that there are only 2 Africans on this list...
I see at least 3.
Koech - Lib
Kirui - Iona
Pienaar - S. Al
Pienaar is a South African. I see him being closer to a Brit than an African. However, you are right, he is from Africa, so yes, that would be 3. Not sure if I qualify him as a true freshman. He is not a RS freshman in XC, since he only started University in January, so this is the first time that he could have competed in XC. However, he has been running with the a university for over 10 months... -
Pretty ignorant trash. Pienaar would clock you upside the head. He's a pure African and proud to be African. Nothing British about him.
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Jbgbhjbijx cbij cx wrote:
Pienaar is a South African. I see him being closer to a Brit than an African. However, you are right, he is from Africa, so yes, that would be 3. Not sure if I qualify him as a true freshman. He is not a RS freshman in XC, since he only started University in January, so this is the first time that he could have competed in XC. However, he has been running with the a university for over 10 months...
Pienaar is a South African so he is African, period. I am a fellow South African (white if you are curious) and I consider myself an African and actually take it as an insult if you think I am a Brit. If you choose to use your ass backwards reason he would actually be closer to Ducth than a Brit being as though his family are of Afrikaans heritage.
He is a frosh regardless if he has been competing since January and as the title says, TOP FROSH. -
Calm down. When he is talking about Africans he is talking about East Africans. You know the ones that dominate the distance world? Last time I checked when people are referring to those "Africans" that steal all the white man's glory they aren't referring to South Africans....
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trFo wrote:
Pretty ignorant trash. Pienaar would clock you upside the head. He's a pure African and proud to be African. Nothing British about him.
No trash intended here. He ran great. He also seems to be progressing really well in So. Al., which is great.
What I meant was that he may be closer to being a European from a genetics point of view than being a Kenyan or Ethiopian for example...
Not taking anything away here from South Africans. That was never the intent... -
BTW: the other 2 "freshman" in Pienaar's (born in 1995) region...
Tobin (Ireland), who was born in July 1994, also ran track for the University in 2014, so it's not his first season racing for the team either.
Guillorel (France) was born in Jan 1994 (but I believe that it's his first season with the team). He will be 21 in a couple of months. -
26mi235 wrote:
3 14 Joe Hardy FR 30:38
4 15 Morgan McDonald FR 30:38
5 17 Carl Hirsch FR 30:38
6 ( 21) Ryan Kromer FR 30:41
going four deep in the Great Lakes - and they are all Wisconsin, and their #1 and #7 were Sophomores...
And they are sitting out Kai this season. Crazy group of Freshman at Wis! -
The top 5 from Pre Nats and Wisconsin (which was a 10k):
***PRE NATIONALS***
18 Mock - Co St
28 Green - G Town
42 Neuman - Or
43 Templeton - Fur
48 Tobin - Miss
***WISCONSIN***
14 Hardy - Wisconsin
15 McDonald - Wisconsin
17 Hirsch - Wisconsin
21 Kromer - Wisconsin
30 Andresson- E Mich
It will be interesting to see who the top finishers will be on Saturday. Probably not going to see 3 in the top 10 like last year (1. Cheserek, 8. Saarel, 9. Tiernan).
