Note, that assumes that Michigan gets points even though the team they ran earlier in the year was different than the one today. WE know you can't earn points for beating a 'b' team but we believe the 'b' team still gets points for rocking it early in the year with Finn.
So consider the first post to be unofficial.
So Arizona State, despite beating 9 squads you list as "IN" are sitting home?
Getting 8th in your region can do that.
george oscar bluth wrote:
Getting 8th in your region can do that.
OUCH! Gotcha, thanks
Had they beaten Cal and Portland for 6th they would've been in, I believe.
Cool, after double checking, both the mens and womens qualifier lists look good to me. We had a slight change of reasoning for the womens but the list seems to be the same.
Of course you can never be 100% sure but these are our best guesses.
-Bo
When are official team/individual results announced?
winnerwinner wrote:
When are official team/individual results announced?
According to the NCAA regional rep at the site where I was working, the committee does selections between 9 and Noon on Saturday with the selected teams posted by 3 pm.
Would UCLA women still be in if they had lost to Cal instead of beating them by a point?
Thanks to the genius of Bo Waggoner's computer program, here are your women's qualiflers. Teams selected:
Teams selected:
Auto qualifiers
1 michigan state
2 wisconsin
3 georgetown
4 west virginia
5 iowa state
6 minnesota
7 colorado
8 new mexico
9 iona
10 providence
11 vanderbilt
12 florida state
13 arkansas
14 baylor
15 william & mary
16 virginia
17 oregon
18 boise state
At large qualifiers
19 unc
20 stanford
21 washington
22 dartmouth
23 syracuse
24 boston college
25 toledo
26 michigan
27 ohio state
28 va tech
29 nc state
30 ucla
31 notre dame
Automatically selected:
1: michigan state is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
2: wisconsin is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
3: georgetown is selected, has losses to (battle_in_beantown) michigan;
4: west virginia is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
5: iowa state is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
6: minnesota is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) stanford, unc, syracuse, washington, ohio state; (big10s) michigan, ohio state; (roy_griak) unc, arizona state;
7: colorado is selected, has losses to (prenats) michigan; (pac12s) stanford;
8: new mexico is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
9: iona is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) stanford, unc, syracuse, washington, ohio state, arizona state, toledo, dartmouth, ucla, boston college; (paul_short) yale, cornell, brown;
10: providence is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) stanford, unc, syracuse, washington, ohio state, arizona state, toledo, dartmouth, ucla, boston college, smu; (battle_in_beantown) michigan, syracuse, boston college, dartmouth;
11: vanderbilt is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) stanford; (roy_griak) unc, arizona state;
12: florida state is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) stanford; (accs) unc;
13: arkansas is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
14: baylor is selected, has losses to (roy_griak) unc; (prenats) michigan, nc state, princeton;
15: william & mary is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) stanford, unc, syracuse, washington, ohio state, arizona state, toledo, dartmouth, ucla, boston college, smu, texas a&m, byu;
16: virginia is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) stanford; (accs) unc;
17: oregon is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
18: boise state is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) stanford, unc, syracuse, washington, ohio state, arizona state; (roy_griak) unc;
Teams under consideration: unc (11), stanford (9), syracuse (6), washington (5), michigan (5), dartmouth (4), toledo (3), smu (2), byu (1), princeton (1), nau (0), lamar (0), va tech (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: arizona state (6), ohio state (6), boston college (4), ucla (3), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), nc state (1), texas a&m (1),
19: unc is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) stanford;
Teams under consideration: stanford (10), syracuse (6), washington (5), michigan (5), dartmouth (4), toledo (3), smu (2), byu (1), nc state (1), princeton (1), nau (0), lamar (0), va tech (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: arizona state (6), ohio state (6), boston college (4), ucla (3), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), texas a&m (1),
20: stanford is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration: syracuse (6), washington (5), michigan (5), dartmouth (4), ucla (3), toledo (3), smu (2), byu (1), nc state (1), princeton (1), nau (0), lamar (0), va tech (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: arizona state (6), ohio state (6), boston college (4), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), texas a&m (1),
syracuse not selected with push (gets in later on their own)
no head-to-head tiebreaker for washington and michigan (relevant meets: )
michigan wins common opponents over washington (common opponents: duke, furman, colorado, florida, oregon state, kansas, ucla, iowa, uc davis, arizona, texas a&m, miami oh, san francisco, elon, washington state, portland, iowa state, unc, william & mary, villanova, usc, lipscomb, cornell, toledo, smu, wyoming, minnesota, arizona state, illinois, princeton, providence, eastern michigan, rutgers, arkansas, nau, ohio state, indiana, maryland, rice, boise state, georgetown, lamar, michigan state, wisconsin, tulsa, west virginia, iona, loyola marymount, yale, utah, virginia, oregon, florida state, bradley, connecticut, harvard, new mexico, eastern kentucky, dartmouth, vanderbilt, notre dame, syracuse, northwestern, boston college, georgia, byu, purdue, weber state, stanford, columbia, kansas state, missouri, baylor, butler, nebraska, new hampshire, idaho, cal, penn state, oklahoma, nc state)
michigan not selected with push (gets in later on their own)
21: washington is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) syracuse;
Teams under consideration: dartmouth (4), ucla (3), toledo (3), smu (2), byu (1), nc state (1), princeton (1), nau (0), lamar (0), cal (0), va tech (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: syracuse (7), arizona state (6), ohio state (6), michigan (5), boston college (4), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), texas a&m (1),
22: dartmouth is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) syracuse, ohio state, arizona state, toledo; (battle_in_beantown) michigan, syracuse, boston college;
Teams under consideration: syracuse (9), boston college (5), toledo (4), ucla (3), smu (2), byu (1), nc state (1), princeton (1), nau (0), lamar (0), cal (0), va tech (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: arizona state (7), ohio state (7), michigan (6), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), texas a&m (1),
23: syracuse is selected, has losses to (accs) nc state, notre dame, va tech, boston college; (battle_in_beantown) michigan;
Teams under consideration: boston college (6), toledo (4), ucla (3), smu (2), nc state (2), byu (1), va tech (1), princeton (1), nau (0), new hampshire (0), lamar (0), cal (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: michigan (7), arizona state (7), ohio state (7), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), notre dame (1), texas a&m (1),
24: boston college is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) ohio state, arizona state, toledo, ucla; (accs) nc state, notre dame, va tech; (battle_in_beantown) michigan;
Teams under consideration: toledo (5), ucla (4), nc state (3), smu (2), va tech (2), byu (1), princeton (1), nau (0), new hampshire (0), columbia (0), lamar (0), cal (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: michigan (8), arizona state (8), ohio state (8), notre dame (2), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), texas a&m (1),
25: toledo is selected, has losses to (notre_dame_invite) nc state, notre dame, byu, penn state, ohio state, princeton, smu; (wisonsin_invite) ohio state, arizona state;
Teams under consideration: ohio state (10), michigan (8), ucla (4), nc state (4), smu (3), byu (2), va tech (2), princeton (2), nau (0), new hampshire (0), columbia (0), lamar (0), cal (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: arizona state (9), notre dame (3), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), texas a&m (1), penn state (1),
ohio state not selected with push (gets in later on their own)
26: michigan is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration: ohio state (10), ucla (4), nc state (4), smu (3), notre dame (3), byu (2), va tech (2), princeton (2), nau (0), new hampshire (0), columbia (0), lamar (0), cal (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: arizona state (9), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), texas a&m (1), penn state (1),
27: ohio state is selected, has losses to (notre_dame_invite) nc state, notre dame, byu, penn state;
Teams under consideration: nc state (5), ucla (4), notre dame (4), byu (3), smu (3), va tech (2), princeton (2), nau (0), new hampshire (0), columbia (0), lamar (0), cal (0), indiana (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: arizona state (9), penn state (2), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), texas a&m (1),
28: va tech is selected, gives no points (pushed in)
29: nc state is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration: ucla (4), notre dame (4), byu (3), smu (3), princeton (2), nau (0), new hampshire (0), columbia (0), lamar (0), cal (0), furman (0), eastern kentucky (0), indiana (0), villanova (0), bradley (0), tulsa (0), alabama (0), lipscomb (0),
Others with points: arizona state (9), penn state (2), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), texas a&m (1),
ucla wins head-to-head tiebreaker over notre dame (relevant meets: wisonsin_invite)
30: ucla is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) arizona state;
Teams under consideration: notre dame (4), byu (3), smu (3), princeton (2), new hampshire (0), cal (0), furman (0), bradley (0), alabama (0),
Others with points: arizona state (10), penn state (2), cornell (1), brown (1), yale (1), texas a&m (1),
31: notre dame is selected, has losses to (wisonsin_invite) arizona state, smu, texas a&m, byu, columbia, indiana;
Editor's note: We edited this post to provide better explanation but the names of the teams remained unchanged.
MEN'S QUALIFIERS
We have a tiebreaker situation between Indiana and Southern Utah. It doesn't look to affect the results but I think it changes the order they get in.
Teams selected:
Auto Teams
1 wisconsin
2 michigan state
3 villanova
4 georgetown
5 oklahoma state
6 tulsa
7 colorado
8 nau
9 syracuse
10 providence
11 mississippi
12 florida state
13 arkansas
14 texas
15 virginia
16 furman
17 oregon
18 portland
At large teams
19 iona
20 stanford
21 ucla
22 washington
23 michigan
24 byu
25 indiana
26 southern utah
27 colorado state
28 utep
29 new mexico
30 unc
31 eastern kentucky
Automatically selected:
1: wisconsin is selected, has losses to (wisconsin_invite) iona;
2: michigan state is selected, has losses to (big10s) michigan, penn state, indiana; (wisconsin_invite) iona, stanford, ucla, washington, michigan, new mexico, byu, indiana; (roy_griak) southern utah, colorado state, minnesota;
3: villanova is selected, has losses to (washington_invite) ucla, stanford, oklahoma, washington;
4: georgetown is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
5: oklahoma state is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
6: tulsa is selected, has losses to (notre_dame_invite) michigan, byu, new mexico, eastern kentucky, southern utah, colorado state, princeton, nc state;
7: colorado is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
8: nau is selected, has losses to (wisconsin_invite) iona, stanford;
9: syracuse is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
10: providence is selected, has losses to (wisconsin_invite) iona, stanford, ucla, washington, michigan;
11: mississippi is selected, has losses to (prenats) colorado state;
12: florida state is selected, has losses to (notre_dame_invite) michigan, byu, new mexico; (wisconsin_invite) iona, stanford, ucla, washington; (accs) nc state, unc;
13: arkansas is selected, has losses to (wisconsin_invite) iona, stanford, ucla, washington, michigan, new mexico, byu, indiana;
14: texas is selected, has losses to (big12s) oklahoma, iowa state; (roy_griak) southern utah, colorado state, minnesota, iowa state; (prenats) colorado state;
15: virginia is selected, has losses to (accs) nc state, unc; (washington_invite) ucla, stanford;
16: furman is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
17: oregon is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
18: portland is selected, has losses to (wisconsin_invite) iona;
Teams under consideration: iona (7), stanford (7), ucla (6), michigan (6), byu (4), southern utah (3), indiana (3), unc (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), eastern kentucky (1), penn state (1), princeton (1), columbia (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: colorado state (5), washington (5), new mexico (4), nc state (3), oklahoma (2),
iona wins head-to-head tiebreaker over stanford (relevant meets: wisconsin_invite)
19: iona is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration: stanford (7), ucla (6), michigan (6), byu (4), southern utah (3), indiana (3), unc (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), eastern kentucky (1), penn state (1), princeton (1), columbia (0), cornell (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: colorado state (5), washington (5), new mexico (4), nc state (3), oklahoma (2),
20: stanford is selected, has losses to (washington_invite) ucla;
Teams under consideration: ucla (7), michigan (6), washington (5), byu (4), southern utah (3), indiana (3), unc (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), eastern kentucky (1), penn state (1), princeton (1), columbia (0), cornell (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: colorado state (5), new mexico (4), nc state (3), oklahoma (2),
21: ucla is selected, has losses to (pac12s) washington;
Teams under consideration: washington (6), michigan (6), byu (4), southern utah (3), indiana (3), unc (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), eastern kentucky (1), penn state (1), princeton (1), columbia (0), cornell (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), arizona state (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: colorado state (5), new mexico (4), nc state (3), oklahoma (2),
washington wins head-to-head tiebreaker over michigan (relevant meets: wisconsin_invite)
22: washington is selected, has losses to (washington_invite) oklahoma;
Teams under consideration: michigan (6), byu (4), southern utah (3), indiana (3), unc (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), eastern kentucky (1), penn state (1), princeton (1), columbia (0), cornell (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), arizona state (0), uc santa barbara (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: colorado state (5), new mexico (4), oklahoma (3), nc state (3),
23: michigan is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration: byu (4), southern utah (3), indiana (3), unc (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), eastern kentucky (1), penn state (1), princeton (1), columbia (0), cornell (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), arizona state (0), uc santa barbara (0), eastern michigan (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: colorado state (5), new mexico (4), oklahoma (3), nc state (3),
24: byu is selected, has losses to (wisconsin_invite) new mexico;
Teams under consideration: colorado state (5), southern utah (3), indiana (3), unc (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), eastern kentucky (1), penn state (1), princeton (1), columbia (0), cornell (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), arizona state (0), uc santa barbara (0), eastern michigan (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: new mexico (5), oklahoma (3), nc state (3),
colorado state not selected with push (gets in later on their own)
no head-to-head tiebreaker for southern utah and indiana (relevant meets: )
No common opponents tiebreaker for southern utah, indiana (common opponents: byu, florida, grand valley state, washington, kansas, ucla, bradley, iona, texas a&m, gonzaga, iowa, portland, texas, iowa state, montana, william & mary, villanova, unc, oklahoma, wyoming, colorado state, minnesota, arizona state, illinois, princeton, providence, eastern michigan, nebraska, arkansas, nau, ohio state, dartmouth, idaho, portland_B_team, lamar, michigan state, wisconsin, tulsa, michigan, weber state, indiana state, virginia, butler, air force, harvard, new mexico, eastern kentucky, penn, notre dame, montana state, syracuse, georgia, cal, purdue, stanford, columbia, florida state, rutgers, eastern washington, boise state, arizona, missouri, penn state, nc state)
Manually broke tie by picking indiana
25: indiana is selected, has losses to (big10s) penn state; (wisconsin_invite) new mexico; (washington_invite) oklahoma;
Teams under consideration: southern utah (3), unc (2), penn state (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), eastern kentucky (1), princeton (1), columbia (0), cornell (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), arizona state (0), uc santa barbara (0), eastern michigan (0), notre dame (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: new mexico (6), colorado state (5), oklahoma (4), nc state (3),
26: southern utah is selected, has losses to (notre_dame_invite) new mexico, eastern kentucky;
Teams under consideration: colorado state (5), unc (2), eastern kentucky (2), penn state (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), princeton (1), utep (0), columbia (0), cornell (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), arizona state (0), uc santa barbara (0), eastern michigan (0), notre dame (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: new mexico (7), oklahoma (4), nc state (3),
27: colorado state is selected, has losses to (notre_dame_invite) new mexico, eastern kentucky; (mountain_west) new mexico, air force;
Teams under consideration: new mexico (9), eastern kentucky (3), unc (2), penn state (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), princeton (1), utep (0), columbia (0), cornell (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), arizona state (0), uc santa barbara (0), eastern michigan (0), notre dame (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: oklahoma (4), nc state (3), air force (1),
28: utep is selected, gives no points (pushed in)
29: new mexico is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration: eastern kentucky (3), unc (2), penn state (2), iowa state (2), minnesota (2), princeton (1), weber state (0), columbia (0), cornell (0), lamar (0), north texas (0), arizona state (0), uc santa barbara (0), eastern michigan (0), notre dame (0), auburn (0), middle tennessee (0),
Others with points: oklahoma (4), nc state (3), air force (1),
30: unc is selected, gives no points (pushed in)
31: eastern kentucky is selected, has losses to (wisconsin_invite) oklahoma, iowa state, minnesota;
UTEP has to really thank New Mexico as they wouldn't have gotten in without a bad day from UNM.
The results are in... Let's hand out some awards....
I've got some 'coaching awards' for the southeast regional.
One for Duke:
http://postimg.org/image/9k4y2vk7t/
One for William and Mary:
http://postimg.org/image/beoot10r1/
What do you think? Anyone have any other nominees?
Eggie wrote:
Would UCLA women still be in if they had lost to Cal instead of beating them by a point?
I just ran the program and UCLA would be the final team in (pushing Cal).
wannabe d1 coach wrote:
The results are in... Let's hand out some awards....
I've got some 'coaching awards' for the southeast regional.
One for Duke:
http://postimg.org/image/9k4y2vk7t/One for William and Mary:
http://postimg.org/image/beoot10r1/What do you think? Anyone have any other nominees?
North Carolina coach and Furman.
How are the regionals set up? The Mountain Regional only had 17 teams and 106 finishers and the NE Regional had more than twice that with 39 teams and 262 runners!??!?!
How many good teams did the two Regionals have - about the same with the Mountain Regional being better. The NE Regional has a lot of small schools that are in DI sometimes because of BB programs or history or they are in DIA but that is still DI. They are also designed so that you do not have to travel too far, and in the NE many can drive over that morning if they want to. In the Mountain Regional if you are non-competitive but are 500 miles away you might not make the trip. How many teams from southern California did not make the long trip up north? Of course, western schools are newer and not as many of them are DI.
george oscar bluth wrote:
Had they beaten Cal and Portland for 6th they would've been in, I believe.
Correct. They needed to beat two teams. Today, I had some time and had that happened they would have been the last team into NCAAs.