If this is true Stanford can kiss their national title hopes goodbye. Nova should not be put in the same category as Colorado or Stanford. sorry. They will not place in the top 5 at Nats.
1. Colorado
2. Oregon
3. NAU
4. Stanford
5. Oklahoma State
If this is true Stanford can kiss their national title hopes goodbye. Nova should not be put in the same category as Colorado or Stanford. sorry. They will not place in the top 5 at Nats.
1. Colorado
2. Oregon
3. NAU
4. Stanford
5. Oklahoma State
We spoke to Stanford coach Chris Miltenberg this afternoon and he confirmed that Jim Rosa (5th at NCAA XC last year) is indeed out for the season after undergoing knee surgery yesterday (you may have guessed this as Rosa posted this picture on Instagram yesterday:
http://instagram.com/p/uG9HjdkWTK/
).
He also said that Sean McGorty (13:37 5k) is making good progress from his back injury over the summer and that he will debut at Pac-12s, then likely skip regionals and race again at NCAAs.
We'll have a deeper look at what this all means for Stanford when our Wisconsin/Pre-Nats preview comes out later this week, but the Rosa news certainly gives Colorado a big edge in the Colorado-Stanford battle everyone was predicting at NCAAs.
With Jim out due to knee surgery, how well will Stanford stack up to Nova and Colarado?
Editor's note: The title of this thread has been chaged to reflect the confirmation below by the Stanford coaching staff. It initiallyw as posed as a question: "Jim Rosa out for the season?"
Joe Rosa 23:15 29:43
http://xc.tfrrs.org/athletes/3692861.html
Maksim Korolev 23:15 29:59
http://xc.tfrrs.org/athletes/4997416.html
http://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/3193360.html
Garrett Sweatt 23:39 30:34
http://xc.tfrrs.org/athletes/4112512.html
Jack Keelan 23:44
http://xc.tfrrs.org/athletes/4507552.html
Michael Atchoo 23:48 29:53
http://xc.tfrrs.org/athletes/3272852.html
Sean McGorty 29:56
http://xc.tfrrs.org/athletes/4507553.html
Sam Wharton 24:01
http://xc.tfrrs.org/athletes/4507554.html
Read more:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6051205#ixzz3GACRGvwm
Stanford were never going to win the national title with or without Rosa.
I'm assuming this is the brother who has avoided injury up until this point. How is the other brother running this cross?
Bleu wrote:
I'm assuming this is the brother who has avoided injury up until this point. How is the other brother running this cross?
Both of them have had injury problems, but Jim's have been less than Joe's, to this point.
Joe, who was out with some kind of a vertebral stress-fracture from spring '13 all the way to late fall, has run brilliantly since then, culminating in a 13:31 for 5th place at outdoor Nats, if I'm remembering right.
He appears to have stayed healthy through the summer, and appears to be in great shape now --though we ought to get a much clearer picture this weekend.
Both of them have said they like XC a LOT more than track, and I'm guessing Joe is really looking forward to finally showing what he can do in college XC, like his brother did last year. (And Joe has always been a little better than his brother in XC.)
If McGorty is close to peak fitness by the end of the season, Stanford will still have an excellent team.
They could certainly be top ten, even without Jim, and conceivably better than that, but it should be near impossible for them to match the depth of Colorado, and probably NAU, and maybe Oregon.
It'll be interesting to see how they look when they finally run most of the team this weekend.
LetsRun.com wrote:
We spoke to Stanford coach Chris Miltenberg this afternoon and he confirmed that Jim Rosa (5th at NCAA XC last year) is indeed out for the season after undergoing knee surgery yesterday (you may have guessed this as Rosa posted this picture on Instagram yesterday:
http://instagram.com/p/uG9HjdkWTK/).
He also said that Sean McGorty (13:37 5k) is making good progress from his back injury over the summer and that he will debut at Pac-12s, then likely skip regionals and race again at NCAAs.
We'll have a deeper look at what this all means for Stanford when our Wisconsin/Pre-Nats preview comes out later this week, but the Rosa news certainly gives Colorado a big edge in the Colorado-Stanford battle everyone was predicting at NCAAs.
He looks heavy in that picture.
Sucks to get injured mid season like this. Hope he has a speedy recovery and get back to training. Does he have an cross eligibility left?
what do you expect? wrote:
If this is true Stanford can kiss their national title hopes goodbye. Nova should not be put in the same category as Colorado or Stanford. sorry. They will not place in the top 5 at Nats.
1. Colorado
2. Oregon
3. NAU
4. Stanford
5. Oklahoma State
The race is definitely not shaping up to be as exciting as I had hoped with another Rosa injury. Weitz and Byrne did not run as well for NAU as I had expected at UW. I also don't think the Oregon guys outside of Ches transition to 10k very well. So my guess is...
1. Colorado
2. Oklahoma State
3. Oregon
4. NAU
That is very sad to hear for both the Men and Women of Stanford.
Somebody needs to take the ISIS training manual away from that squad. Men and Women are dropping like flies.
Bummer. Every year Stanford finds a way to disappoint me :(
Nationals just got a lot less interesting.
How did he hurt his knee?What type of surgery did he have?
It is hard to believe that a team that sports the 3rd-placer from last year, 13:31 and 13:37 guys from the previous season, and Atchoo (who ran 3:40 last year), as well as a handful of other great runners is being discussed as being "probably in the top-10" and not a shoe-in for the win.
NCAA distance running is getting TO-OUUUGH!!
newname wrote:
It is hard to believe that a team that sports the 3rd-placer from last year, 13:31 and 13:37 guys from the previous season, and Atchoo (who ran 3:40 last year), as well as a handful of other great runners is being discussed as being "probably in the top-10" and not a shoe-in for the win.
NCAA distance running is getting TO-OUUUGH!!
Yeah, well, Atchoo's not a great 10K guy, McGorty's still unproven at 10K, we don't quite know what we have yet with the rest of the guys,... and there are some really, really good teams out there. (One in particular.)
newname wrote:
It is hard to believe that a team that sports the 3rd-placer from last year, 13:31 and 13:37 guys from the previous season, and Atchoo (who ran 3:40 last year), as well as a handful of other great runners is being discussed as being "probably in the top-10" and not a shoe-in for the win.
NCAA distance running is getting TO-OUUUGH!!
The truth is in the stats. It's been a while since the Stanford guys were 1st, and the recent trend isn't friendly.
2013 19th Miltenberg
2012 16th Miltenberg
2011 5th Dunn
2010 4th Dunn
2009 10th Dunn
2008 3rd Dunn
2007 19th Tegan
2006 4th Tegan
2005 6th Tegan
2004 6th Gerard
2003 1st Gerard
2002 1st Lannana
What was his injury? Something that requires knee surgery sounds pretty serious.
Although he is not a one-for-one replacement for Jim, but if McGorty can run up to his capabilities, they won lose too much. Statistically, very few teams can get their original top 5 to the starting line for the championship. You really need 6 to 7 guys, because you are probably going to lose someone during the season and someone is probably going to have a bad championship race. Looks at the top teams over the last couple of years and you clearly see what I am talking about. Quite often the team that loses one of the their original top-5, will have their 6 or 7 runners makes a major step up. Unless you have a solid 6 or 7th man, you have to be really lucky to keep your top-5 intact. Things have certainly gotten more difficult, but I still expect Stanford to be in the hunt for a national title because statistically Colorado and the other top teams will have some adversity at point.
Point well taken, what you say is true. However this injury does have a major effect on the team championship this year. Stanford was going to need every low stick possible to even compete with Colorado. Colorado will almost certainly put 5 in the top 30 at NCAA's and now, due to Jim's injury there is just no way Stanford can compete with them. I say this also taking in to account that 1 or even 2 of Colorado's top 7 can have a "disappointing" race and they will still win.
From my perspective this takes the last bit of excitement out of the 2014 Men's team title race....Colorado back to back champs.....book it!
george oscar bluth wrote:
what do you expect? wrote:If this is true Stanford can kiss their national title hopes goodbye. Nova should not be put in the same category as Colorado or Stanford. sorry. They will not place in the top 5 at Nats.
1. Colorado
2. Oregon
3. NAU
4. Stanford
5. Oklahoma State
The race is definitely not shaping up to be as exciting as I had hoped with another Rosa injury. Weitz and Byrne did not run as well for NAU as I had expected at UW. I also don't think the Oregon guys outside of Ches transition to 10k very well. So my guess is...
1. Colorado
2. Oklahoma State
3. Oregon
4. NAU
Yeah...what I noticed at UW was unfortunately not a fluke for NAU. Their 4 and 5 are really that bad right now.