Is glycerol really banned by WADA? Does that mean that Steve Spence, Deena Kastor (and myself) are dopers?

From now on you must refer to yourself as "drug cheat Robert Johnson." We'll call it even.

deer the drug cheat rojo: yes, yourself and Steve Spence are dopers and you need to be depressed that you couldn't break 2:20 while you were dopoing.

The drug cheat Rojo himself should be ashamed for dopoing.

Why were you taking something for water retention?

dumberz wrote:

Why were you taking something for water retention?

#IvyLeagueEducation

I took glycerol just before one of the worst races of my life.

It's not cause you were a doper, it's cause you tried to hide it. What were you masking with that stuff?

Bad Wigins wrote:

It's not cause you were a doper, it's cause you tried to hide it.

This sentence doesn't make sense but...

it was marketed as a product that helped you stay hydrated. This was several years ago and bought the stuff at a running store. I thought "oooh, what could be better than staying hydrated?" and then went one to run on of the worst races of my life.

Drug Cheat Robert Johnson

Has a nice ring to it.

Did the Drug Cheat Robert Johnson get his dope from his great friend the Drug Cheat Paula Radcliffe?

It means it is listed as a masking agent, not as a performance enhancer. So the question is what PED was rojo masking with it.

I'm going to change his byline and link to this thread.

The reason glycerol is banned is because, as the WADA section title indicates, it's a masking agent. It also helps with sludge blood.

When a doper uses EPO, his hematocrit climbs with the increase in RBC's. Consequently, the available space in the blood for water is reduced. It makes it very easy to become dehydrated while on EPO. Taking glycerol could help with that dehydration problem.

It can also be used to push more water into the blood to lower hct before a test.

Srsly wrote:

The reason glycerol is banned is because, as the WADA section title indicates, it's a masking agent. It also helps with sludge blood.

When a doper uses EPO, his hematocrit climbs with the increase in RBC's. Consequently, the available space in the blood for water is reduced. It makes it very easy to become dehydrated while on EPO. Taking glycerol could help with that dehydration problem.

It can also be used to push more water into the blood to lower hct before a test.

Can drinking water be used to push more water into the blood to lower hct before a test?

iuoieur wrote:

Can drinking water be used to push more water into the blood to lower hct before a test?

Maybe. Maybe not. With EPO, it might be enough to simply "drink enough" water, especially if your hct is above 50 or flirting with 55. A saline IV would be the best and quickest way to mask. Just ask Lance.

research shows rojo continues to benefit from the doping: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/29510575j/k, this only concerns anabolic steroids:

If you exercise, or take anabolic steroids, you get more nuclei and you get bigger muscles. If you take away the steroids, you lose the muscle mass, but the nuclei remain inside the muscle fibres.

They are like temporarily closed factories, ready to start producing protein again when you start exercising again.

reopen the factories, rojo

Srsly wrote:

iuoieur wrote:

Can drinking water be used to push more water into the blood to lower hct before a test?

Maybe. Maybe not. With EPO, it might be enough to simply "drink enough" water, especially if your hct is above 50 or flirting with 55. A saline IV would be the best and quickest way to mask. Just ask Lance.

Is this why Andy Vernon was harping on Lynsey Sharp at the Commonwealth Games for using an IV drip the night before the 800?

Srsly wrote:

iuoieur wrote:

Can drinking water be used to push more water into the blood to lower hct before a test?

Maybe. Maybe not. With EPO, it might be enough to simply "drink enough" water, especially if your hct is above 50 or flirting with 55. A saline IV would be the best and quickest way to mask. Just ask Lance.

Just ask the Drug Cheat Paula Radcliffe.

No Rojo- Concerns that the haemodilution associated with the fluid retention in the vascular space may be sufficient to mask illegal doping practices by athletes led the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) to add glycerol to its list of prohibited substances in 2010. That's the only reason it's been banned. Not because it's an athletic performance enhancement.