NCAA XC Dark Horse Pick?

I pick Yale. They look better this year than they have in the past, and gave Princeton a run a few weeks ago. Should contend in the Northeast, which sent six teams last year.

G'Town might not even make nationals

Positive Contribution wrote:

G'Town might not even make nationals

The pick would be to make not win nats.

As an alum, I have to painfully disagree with the ND pick. They are going to have quite a down year - already lost National Catholic. Big Sparks fan though.

Jackson Browne wrote:

I pick Yale. They look better this year than they have in the past, and gave Princeton a run a few weeks ago. Should contend in the Northeast, which sent six teams last year.

I like this pick. They surprised Princeton and I don't think it was a fluke.

get rish wrote:

As an alum, I have to painfully disagree with the ND pick. They are going to have quite a down year - already lost National Catholic. Big Sparks fan though.

Yeah, it's definitely a reach, but I think it's possible.

They didn't run their top guys at NCI. Ball and Clevenger are good. They also have a Princeton Xfer (Vitez?) that should be running by ACCs or Regionals, I hope.

So, they'll have a legit scoring five (with Kildo and Marco) and could surprise with some at large points.

Longshot, but possible...

Pundits are picking MTSU at the true dark horse this year.

Ole Miss!

Penn will get 2nd in the Mid-Atlantic region beating Princeton and Georgetown thus heading to NCAAs

Michigan state university!

what will happennn wrote:

Penn will get 2nd in the Mid-Atlantic region beating Princeton and Georgetown thus heading to NCAAs

Totally agree that Penn will have a good shot at natty's but I don't think they will beat Princeton. Penn comes in a tight spot for 3rd beating G'town. With Thomas Awad and a solid group of freshman/sophomores with good success on the track they are dangerous

Oregon Women lead by the individual champ Sarah Baxter. GO DUCKS

Air Force. Always ignored in national polls but a very solid program has been built up there over the last 4-5 years.

Furman. Beat Iona today and were just behind Virginia. 4 freshman in the top 7. High ceiling crew.

Jackson Browne wrote:

I pick Yale. They look better this year than they have in the past, and gave Princeton a run a few weeks ago. Should contend in the Northeast, which sent six teams last year.

The Northast sending 6 teams was a fluke. Harvard was amazingly good early in the year with Leakos and korolev and very mediocre late in the year (30th). They probably didn't 'deserve' to go late in the year but they had so many points they poushed Dartmouth in (note, i know they clearly deserved to go as they had the points but they weren't a great team without leakos).

Most years, you are looking at 3-4 teams from the region.

When I was coaching in the Ivy League, I think the Ivy winner went to NCAAs less than half the time.

I started in 2002. From 2002 to through 2009- a grand total of 1 Ivy teams made NCAAs (Dartmouth 05).

Here are the all time NCAA team performances by Ivy schools

Brown (1963-87-92-96)

Columbia (2011-12-13).

Cornell (1957-70-71-77-92)

Dartmouth (1975-76-80-83-86-87-88-89-91-93-94-95-98-99-2000-01-05-13)

Harvard (1964-68-69-70-76-78-79-13)

Penn (1969-70-71-75)

Princeton - Princeton (1969-71-72-75-76-80-81-97-98-99-2010-11-12-13)

Yale - never

Now the last few years, there have been more teams. Princeton figured things out and got on a roll. 2 in 1011, 2 in 2012, and 4 last year.

With other schools getting more and more expensive and with the ivies financial aid getting more and more generous, are the ivies becoming even more attractive than they used to be?

Perhaps.

But this year is a regarded by most as a down year as compared to last year. The winner has a good shot of making but anything more than 2 teams is a total shocker.

Next year, nearly everyone comes back. Next year will be maybe a multibid year.

Blue shoes wrote:

Furman. Beat Iona today and were just behind Virginia. 4 freshman in the top 7. High ceiling crew.

I was surprised by this. UVA ran it's top guys. Visokay did so, so. The rest ran well. Did Iona run it's top guys (I don't know them well enough to tell)?

If so, Furman is no joke.

Furman only has 1 senior in the top 7. The rest of the team is all freshman (4) and sophmores (2). Will they be a top 10 team in a couple years?

They have had great recruiting classes the past 2 years. They will make some noise. Iona ran full strength as did Auburn.

Very young team with a high ceiling .

Blue Shoes wrote:

Furman only has 1 senior in the top 7. The rest of the team is all freshman (4) and sophmores (2). Will they be a top 10 team in a couple years?

Furman has only been funded two years Now going into 3rd year).