Cain will turn into another American dissappointment. Relative to Africa, life is just too easy here and the athletes dont have the willpower to go the extra mile.
Cain will turn into another American dissappointment. Relative to Africa, life is just too easy here and the athletes dont have the willpower to go the extra mile.
Let's see the logic here: Cain ended up not running as fast as Budd at 1500/3k/5k in high school, so Cain will be like Rowbury, who "happened to reach her peak early." Rowbury pr'd THIS YEAR at 1500m, 3000m, and 5000m. So, Rowbury did not peak early. Budd did peak early. And about Cain, we know only that she competed sparingly this year and never for time after indoors, but did win world junior 3k in 8:48, which certainly indicated much faster. And of course Cain also ran an altitude indoor time without pacers that was equivalent to a 4:04 this year. She'll be fine. Next year, I assume she'll concentrate on the sport and run great times and do well in championships.
Well, Rowbury set 4 impressive personal best marks this year at the age of 30.
So until she stops improving, she has not yet reached her peak.
jjjjjjjjj wrote:
Let's see the logic here: Cain ended up not running as fast as Budd at 1500/3k/5k in high school, so Cain will be like Rowbury, who "happened to reach her peak early." Rowbury pr'd THIS YEAR at 1500m, 3000m, and 5000m. So, Rowbury did not peak early. Budd did peak early. And about Cain, we know only that she competed sparingly this year and never for time after indoors, but did win world junior 3k in 8:48, which certainly indicated much faster. And of course Cain also ran an altitude indoor time without pacers that was equivalent to a 4:04 this year. She'll be fine. Next year, I assume she'll concentrate on the sport and run great times and do well in championships.
I think the OP meant to say that Cain was the one who would have peaked early.
not so pessimistic wrote:
So until she stops improving, she has not yet reached her peak.
Al Sal wonder juice; a.k.a., slow-steady progress.
Scottish Pessimist wrote:
In other words, she'll be another ~2:00/4:00/15:00 type (like Rowbury but with a different progression).
That would hardly be a bad career. If she can "race" like Centro and Jenny, who knows. Centro especially is nowhere near the fastest, but he brings home the medals.
I think Cain can do better. The question is does she want that life? Its HARD and she could punt at anytime, become a doctor, engineer, whatever.
markschultz25 wrote:
Cain will turn into another American dissappointment. Relative to Africa, life is just too easy here and the athletes dont have the willpower to go the extra mile.
You're projecting, boy.
Mary Cain is a late bloomer compared to Zola Budd, Mary Cain will improve year to year and will set personal best's into her 30's, wait until next year when she moves to portland and gets the altitude tents and other high tech gadgets they have, and she will have multi billionaire Phil Knight willing ready and able to spend billions of dollars to see everything possible is made to develop her to her maximum potential.
Scottish Pessimist wrote:
In other words, she'll be another ~2:00/4:00/15:00 type (like Rowbury but with a different progression).
3:59/8:29/14:48 type you mean?
Zola did not have top-end speed like Cain. Because of her natural speed Mary's forte is and will be the 800/1500. She did run a sub 2:00 800m at the 2013 Prefontaine Classic at age 17.
She will definitely better Zola's times in these two events by quite a margin.
Scottish Pessimist wrote:
She ran 4:01, 8:37, and 15:01 (WR) at age 17
Now she ended up very good with 3:59 and 14:48 but not don't get your hopes up for Cain. She is not as fast and neither of Zola's times would be American records. In all likelihood she will just be another solid performer Shannon Rowbury who happened to reach her peak early.
The HUGE difference is that Cain has exceptional speed. She's also training less at the same age. As a consequence, she's extremely likely to outperform Budd when it comes to major championships.
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Scottish Pessimist wrote:She ran 4:01, 8:37, and 15:01 (WR) at age 17
Now she ended up very good with 3:59 and 14:48 but not don't get your hopes up for Cain. She is not as fast and neither of Zola's times would be American records. In all likelihood she will just be another solid performer Shannon Rowbury who happened to reach her peak early.
The HUGE difference is that Cain has exceptional speed. She's also training less at the same age. As a consequence, she's extremely likely to outperform Budd when it comes to major championships.
With the exception, of course, of cross-country :)
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That would hardly be a bad career. If she can "race" like Centro and Jenny, who knows. Centro especially is nowhere near the fastest, but he brings home the medals.
Centro brings home the medals when nobody good is racing. Put him in a great field and he's coming in 7th.
Jeesh, for a pessimist you sure are pessimistic. Oh, and so what?! Means nothing other than a good troll in the message board park.
Scottish Pessimist wrote:
She ran 4:01, 8:37, and 15:01 (WR) at age 17
Now she ended up very good with 3:59 and 14:48 but not don't get your hopes up for Cain. She is not as fast and neither of Zola's times would be American records. In all likelihood she will just be another solid performer Shannon Rowbury who happened to reach her peak early.
Let's hope Cain DOESN'T end up like Zola Budd, who peaked at 19 and was pretty much done internationally by the time she was 20.
Who can tell how any young runners career will turn out ?
Just another excuse for trolls on here to bash someone as usual. .
Budd is not American.
Les wrote:
Let's hope Cain DOESN'T end up like Zola Budd, who peaked at 19 and was pretty much done internationally by the time she was 20.
Poor Zola never had a chance of developing her full potential.
A naïve, unsophisticated young girl who had hardly ever left the remote farm she was born in, having broken the world 5000 record and not being able to run internationally due the apartheid boycott, she was brought over to Britain amidst great publicity and controversy and fast tracked with a British passport - her life turned upside down.
For instance, she was often hounded, even had some the races she was running in disrupted, by anti-apartheid supporters - a policy she had no idea even existed.
And (unlike Mo Farah who has zero British blood in his veins!) she was never accepted as British by a large proportion of the British public.
Who knows what might have happened had she had lived and trained in stress-free environment.
I think Cain is going to break every American record from 800-5k by the time she is done running.