The Rise of Scotland Independence

I'm Scottish, and haven't decided which way to vote yet.

You clearly know absolutely nothing about the issues.

So please shut up.

Thnank you.

Is Texas next? I read an article the other day that suggested TX would be better suited at independence (minus a few significant downsides) than Scottland.

Ted Underhill wrote:

Is Texas next? I read an article the other day that suggested TX would be better suited at independence (minus a few significant downsides) than Scottland.

And those downsides are? Regarding Texas.

My guess is that the Scots will vote for independence. I think folks want more of a say. One commentator (cannot remember who) noted that the UK is so London-centric and dominated by London that the needs or wants of areas outside of London are ignored.

The good news here is that it will be done peacefully and that there has not been violence (at least that I have heard of).

luv2run wrote:

My guess is that the Scots will vote for independence. I think folks want more of a say. One commentator (cannot remember who) noted that the UK is so London-centric and dominated by London that the needs or wants of areas outside of London are ignored.

You ought to get some money on that. The odds are saying that the Scots will not vote for independence and it the vote probably won't be that close.

trollism wrote:

luv2run wrote:

My guess is that the Scots will vote for independence. I think folks want more of a say. One commentator (cannot remember who) noted that the UK is so London-centric and dominated by London that the needs or wants of areas outside of London are ignored.

You ought to get some money on that. The odds are saying that the Scots will not vote for independence and it the vote probably won't be that close.

The most recent poll was 54-46 against independence. With a margin of eerror of 3% a yes vote looks unlikely.

tow. wrote:

As an American, am very proud of the Scottish looking to take back their country and secede from the English.

I also love all the pressure tactics and propaganda from the UK in saying they will "drown in debt, be open to invasion, suffer nationalism civil wars.."

Just gotta love FREEDOM. Scotland, vote for your freedom and be a country in the Olympics!! Proper representation.

England just wants to save face.

The Royal Bank of Scotland as well as Lloyd Banking group would disagree.

They have signalled their intention to move their headquarters to London should the 'YES' side win.

This is a tough issue that has repercussions beyond just politics.

May be you need to read this.

'Lloyds..'

My family was from a communist country. Scotland should vote for independence. It is plain and simple to control your destiny.

NativeSon wrote:

tow. wrote:

As an American, am very proud of the Scottish looking to take back their country and secede from the English.

I also love all the pressure tactics and propaganda from the UK in saying they will "drown in debt, be open to invasion, suffer nationalism civil wars.."

Just gotta love FREEDOM. Scotland, vote for your freedom and be a country in the Olympics!! Proper representation.

England just wants to save face.

The Royal Bank of Scotland as well as Lloyd Banking group would disagree.

They have signalled their intention to move their headquarters to London should the 'YES' side win.

This is a tough issue that has repercussions beyond just politics.

May be you need to read this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/royal-bank-of-scotland-would-leave-if-yes-side-wins-1.2763360

Those "banks" aren't controlled by anyone who's a true Scot, just like American banks aren't controlled by people who actually consider themselves Americans. You know this. You know what I mean. Eff those banks.

I’m stoked for scotland. I think they’ll vote for independence, and should. That said I’m biased: I’ve always found the Scots to be much more welcoming, friendly, and open than the English. My english friends talked non-stop crap about the US, took every chance to take shots where they could (always unprovoked) and clearly had some cultural beef, while my scottish friends were just cool and chill didn’t care, and were much like my swedish friends. So I perceive the English as bullies generally.

With that bias in mind, I don’t understand why the UK is so determined to keep the scots, and is actually threatening to not share a currency if they split! This is so childish, and is clearly crying over spilled milk rather than doing what is best for the citizens of both countries. Scotland should be one of the wealthiest per capita countries if it splits and is very very safe economically. Culturally, they are more akin to scandinavians than english, and have a unique history which the english periodically attempt to poach (eg haggis, kilts, etc).

This may be straying away from thread but, how is it that even today the English are still so heartily disliked - world over it appears?

Okay, here it is, I'm English, immigrated to Canada with my family in 1957. I was age 9. My dad just could not believe how difficult it was to get along with Canadian people in general. Not all were bad but I think it was a jarring culture shock my parents had a hard time dealing with. Myself I did have quite a time of it, my accent maybe. My nature has always been that of a loner and unfortunately easily antagonized. More so as a kid than now I will add.

As for Scotland wanting to secede from the U.K., Why I ask? I just don't want to see Britain out even more. They will be affected adversely. Christ, the Thatcher years all but finished England's working class.

They're going to vote no, so you know nothing.

I think I lot of Scots were caught up in the whole William Wallace aspect of the thing, but then when they realised that they're going to be living in a much poorer nation (albeit independent of the evil English, who prop Scotland up currently) a lot have come to their senses.

As for the currency thing, they want out, they want out of the currency too. They can do their own thing. Why should they carry on benefiting from the strength of the Pound? Not sure where you get your information about Scotland being wealthy? Have you seen Scotland now? It's not going to get any better without the subsidies it receives from London.

The dopey yanks on this board who learn their history from the movies and struggle to find most of the countries they stick their nose into on a map should do something very un American and shut the f up.

Sea Landia wrote:

The dopey yanks on this board who learn their history from the movies and struggle to find most of the countries they stick their nose into on a map should do something very un American and shut the f up.

We aren't talking, we're typing. Joke's on you.

The Scots should run hard and fast away from those nasty rotten teeth brits. England has been third world for 75 years and wouldn't even exist without being bailed out by The USA in WWI and WWII.

This poll says "too close to call"

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/sep/11/scottish-independence-voting-intention-across-scotland-mapped

Les is a no talent wrote:

Those "banks" aren't controlled by anyone who's a true Scot, just like American banks aren't controlled by people who actually consider themselves Americans. You know this. You know what I mean. Eff those banks.

This!^^^ Get out from under the thumb of The Bank of England.

Scots are Brits, so they'd be running from themselves... Thanks for proving my point.

No one would ever under estimate the US's contribution to helping Britain but again they came in half way through on both occasions so I don't think it was quite how John Wayne made it look. Again thanks for proving my point with learning your history from the movies.

Just called up my Scottish ex-teammates from college. Looks like 3-1 are voting YES to independence. Seems like the vote will be divided on age... hopefully the young turn out and vote.

Death to the UK.