bro science wrote:
Blond Waifs wrote:how about, did he get to make out with ashley olsen and sherly crow?
i mean there is that too, but im not trying to over complicate things
None of the above relating to how good of a person someone is. And before you throw the Livestrong numbers at me, yes he has done great things, but he is not a decent human being at his core.
Also, bro science videos are lame. "Look at me stereotype everyone who goes to the gym and do it over and over again".
george oscar bluth wrote:
he is not a decent human being at his core.
Im assuming his core is rock solid. Have to have great posture while churning out all those watts on the bike.
Lance does not have a single friend in the world. He may have leeches, sycophants, etc. But friends? No. Who in their right mind would want to be friends with a pathological liar and cheater who viciously attacks such friends whenever it suits his purposes?
id be friends w him. he probably just wants to chill out now and drink beer. he had a huge reason to lie. he doesn't anymore.
bro science wrote:
id be friends w him. he probably just wants to chill out now and drink beer. he had a huge reason to lie. he doesn't anymore.
You must be seriously desperate for friends then. This is a man who has proven that as far as he is concerned friends are to be used and abused as suits his purpose and the ONLY code of ethics that matters begins and ends with what is best for Lance.
So, yes, he had a huge reason to lie - the only thing in the world that matters to him (himself) was in jeopardy
If I believed you I would feel sorry for you.
false and false.
Dave Wottle wrote:
get on the bike:
Nice attempt at a comparison, but try leaving critical thinking to the adults.
A cheater is a cheater regardless of their method. He did not win ANY TDF titles because he cheated. Just like Rosie didn't win Boston because she cheated (even though she 'crossed the finish line first').
Maybe you are a Lance fanboy and this bias is getting in the way of your logical thinking skills.
Don't support a cheater.
Who the F cares about the Tour or Lance. Every rider for the past 15 years has been doped to the gills. They're all doped and they're all asswipe narcissists. Don't give them another thought and don't watch their fraudulent race.
Good! I'm glad! He played the stupid game that was there to be played at the time. He played it better than everyone else. All the sponsors got their moneys worth and Lance, a commodity, deserves to keep a good portion of what he EARNED. Don't like it? Tough beans!!!
Can we not get into this stupid argument again? No one is going to change anyone's opinion of Lance whether they are pro Lance or against Lance. This thread is pointless. It just gets frustrating. No-one will win.
If Lance did not win because he cheated, then nobody has ever won the Turd of France. Every single TdF rider has cheated somehow or other. Every damn one of them. No exceptions. And they all start cheating long before they reach the Turd.
In the early days, dope was nothing. They attacked each other, poured tacks in front of each other, and hopped onto cars when nobody was looking. They used drugs like either, heroin and cocaine, and nobody considered that cheating at all. Not until they started using amphetamines and dying did doping become an issue, and even then it was about safety and a clean-cut public image, not fairness.
Skinny Ripped wrote:
Can we not get into this stupid argument again? No one is going to change anyone's opinion of Lance whether they are pro Lance or against Lance. This thread is pointless. It just gets frustrating. No-one will win.
Try not visiting this thread any more. It works wonders.