This quote says it all.
“I’m not going to turn up in my home country and get beaten. A lot of those Kenyan guys I can beat, but when I’m only 80 or 90 per cent I’m just asking to be beaten.”
Translation. I only participate when I am 100% certain I will win.
...just the easy ones like the World Champs and the Olympics.
Positive Contribution wrote:
This quote says it all.
“I’m not going to turn up in my home country and get beaten. A lot of those Kenyan guys I can beat, but when I’m only 80 or 90 per cent I’m just asking to be beaten.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/11027332/European-Athletics-Championships-2014-Mo-Farah-hits-back-over-Paul-Radcliffes-easy-option-jibe.htmlTranslation. I only participate when I am 100% certain I will win.
That really is a pathetic outlook, thank god most athletes aren't like him. Think if an NFL player made a statement like this!! It's called being a competitor and gutting it out even when you're not 100%.
This quote epitomizes NOP and shows why it's killing the sport and fans of it. Just disgusting
"I only participate when I am 100% certain I will win."
He can never be that certain.
I'm sure you be trollin though.
Mo Dope wrote:
Positive Contribution wrote:This quote says it all.
“I’m not going to turn up in my home country and get beaten. A lot of those Kenyan guys I can beat, but when I’m only 80 or 90 per cent I’m just asking to be beaten.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/11027332/European-Athletics-Championships-2014-Mo-Farah-hits-back-over-Paul-Radcliffes-easy-option-jibe.htmlTranslation. I only participate when I am 100% certain I will win.
That really is a pathetic outlook, thank god most athletes aren't like him. Think if an NFL player made a statement like this!! It's called being a competitor and gutting it out even when you're not 100%.
This quote epitomizes NOP and shows why it's killing the sport and fans of it. Just disgusting
An NFL player has a whole team to back him up. He can get away with being at 80-90%. Mo does not have this luxury.
The UK will be happy to have the two golds he brings back from Zurich
The Guardian reports that he is "fit and ready" to run the European Championships.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/aug/11/mo-farah-collapse-airlift-european-championships
Extracts:
Mo Farah has revealed for the first time that he was airlifted to hospital last month because doctors feared there was something wrong with his heart after he lost consciousness on his bathroom floor in Park City, Utah.
“I was in hospital for four days and it was scary but these things happen and so I missed quite a lot of running.”
“After the illness I did a couple of runs and I thought I hadn’t lost very much,”
“I did one track session and Paula Radcliffe was timing me and she told me I should stop. Later on Paula said I’d taken the easy option, which is not fair as she’d seen me struggle."
Not surprised. Selling out for that marathon earlier this year must have taken a lot out of him.
asdfasiodjfaijf wrote:
"I only participate when I am 100% certain I will win."
He can never be that certain.
I'm sure you be trollin though.
Yeah maybe a little with that comment.
But look if you 80-90% healthy I understand not racing unless it is an Olympics or WC's since that was you do all your training for anyway. Otherwise it is wise to risk serious injury.
However if you refuse to race because are 80-90% fit while having no pains or oncoming injuries. Well that is just bush league IMO.
Paula just assumed that he could do like she did and get a few injections, pop some pills, hook up an IV and be 100%. NOPe must be having some problems with having to continuously increase the dosages as the NOPers spend years on the juice.
juir57 wrote:
An NFL player has a whole team to back him up. He can get away with being at 80-90%. Mo does not have this luxury.
Unless the race is a full-out time trial, he actually does have that luxury. His Kenyan and Ethiopian competitors certainly haven't stopped competing against Farah and they are very rarely in great form when going against him.
he just gained mine!!
Positive Contribution wrote:
Translation. I only participate when I am 100% certain I will win.
That's not what he said. He says he wouldn't run if he's 80-90 percent fit. So for Farah, 80-90 percent of his usual performance would equal 14:00 to 16:00 in the 5K and 30-33 minutes in the 10K. What's the point of running at that level? He is correct that he has no chance to compete in these events if he's that far off.
odofj wrote:
juir57 wrote:An NFL player has a whole team to back him up. He can get away with being at 80-90%. Mo does not have this luxury.
Unless the race is a full-out time trial, he actually does have that luxury. His Kenyan and Ethiopian competitors certainly haven't stopped competing against Farah and they are very rarely in great form when going against him.
I think the Kenyans and Ethiopians are always in competitive form against Farah. In the Olympics 5k, Gebremeskel might have been able to beat him if he positioned himself better, and the same thing goes for Gebrhiwet last year.
I think Canova said that Ndiku was probably in 12:52 shape at the CG. This is probably enough to beat Farah at 80-90%
juir57 wrote:
odofj wrote:Unless the race is a full-out time trial, he actually does have that luxury. His Kenyan and Ethiopian competitors certainly haven't stopped competing against Farah and they are very rarely in great form when going against him.
I think the Kenyans and Ethiopians are always in competitive form against Farah. In the Olympics 5k, Gebremeskel might have been able to beat him if he positioned himself better, and the same thing goes for Gebrhiwet last year.
I think Canova said that Ndiku was probably in 12:52 shape at the CG. This is probably enough to beat Farah at 80-90%
Fine we'll use golf as an example then. Think Tiger was 100% when he won the US Open in '08 against that Rocco dude? Hell know, he was playing on one leg! But what did he do? He went out and competed anyways, he's still not 100% and he still goes out a competes.
That's "what champions do" Mo- they compete whether they're in full fitness or not.
juir57 wrote:
odofj wrote:Unless the race is a full-out time trial, he actually does have that luxury. His Kenyan and Ethiopian competitors certainly haven't stopped competing against Farah and they are very rarely in great form when going against him.
I think the Kenyans and Ethiopians are always in competitive form against Farah. In the Olympics 5k, Gebremeskel might have been able to beat him if he positioned himself better, and the same thing goes for Gebrhiwet last year.
I think Canova said that Ndiku was probably in 12:52 shape at the CG. This is probably enough to beat Farah at 80-90%
If you really think the Kenyans and Ethiopians are always in great form when running against Farah then you aren't paying attention. Where has Merga been? Where was Farah's competition in the 10000m? You're only picking one race for each of those Ethiopians. What about all of the other races??
juir57 wrote:
odofj wrote:Unless the race is a full-out time trial, he actually does have that luxury. His Kenyan and Ethiopian competitors certainly haven't stopped competing against Farah and they are very rarely in great form when going against him.
I think the Kenyans and Ethiopians are always in competitive form against Farah. In the Olympics 5k, Gebremeskel might have been able to beat him if he positioned himself better, and the same thing goes for Gebrhiwet last year.
I think Canova said that Ndiku was probably in 12:52 shape at the CG. This is probably enough to beat Farah at 80-90%
Ha. The obvious sentiment, and Mo's problem, is that Caleb at 12:52 would beat Mo at 100%. Mo's finished. It's been fun watching him cherry-pick races and win a couple golds during a worldwide slump.
Homunculus wrote:
Positive Contribution wrote:Translation. I only participate when I am 100% certain I will win.
That's not what he said. He says he wouldn't run if he's 80-90 percent fit. So for Farah, 80-90 percent of his usual performance would equal 14:00 to 16:00 in the 5K and 30-33 minutes in the 10K. What's the point of running at that level? He is correct that he has no chance to compete in these events if he's that far off.
That's not what he said but it is what he meant.
Farah could not run for a year still run a 14:00 5K so your argument is invalid. 80-90% fit for Mohammed means he will be there with two laps to go in a 5 or 10 but he doesn't have enough fitness to kick for the win.
odofj wrote:
juir57 wrote:I think the Kenyans and Ethiopians are always in competitive form against Farah. In the Olympics 5k, Gebremeskel might have been able to beat him if he positioned himself better, and the same thing goes for Gebrhiwet last year.
I think Canova said that Ndiku was probably in 12:52 shape at the CG. This is probably enough to beat Farah at 80-90%
If you really think the Kenyans and Ethiopians are always in great form when running against Farah then you aren't paying attention. Where has Merga been? Where was Farah's competition in the 10000m? You're only picking one race for each of those Ethiopians. What about all of the other races??
First, isn't Merga sort of done? I don't think he's had great results in a while...
Second, the point I was trying to make was that there's someone always in competitive form from Kenya and Ethiopia at these championships. You're 100% correct in saying that every one of Mo's East African competition is not always in great form. But there is always someone who can throw down a challenge in the championships.
Also, I feel like the 10000 has less and less of a reason for remaining an Olympic event. It's completely noncompetitive at this point. It's not even a DL event anymore, and there are only 2 10000s at DL meets this year. I'm expecting it to be phased out in the not too distant future.
Paula = truth teller. She also implied, and I agree, that David Rudisha is not only a better athlete, but a better man than Mo Farah.