What are y'all thinking for the PL this year? Did anyone get noteworthy recruits? Any impressive summer results? Does Rich Peters still have eligibility? Where is Elise Deroo?
All important questions that need to be answered.
What are y'all thinking for the PL this year? Did anyone get noteworthy recruits? Any impressive summer results? Does Rich Peters still have eligibility? Where is Elise Deroo?
All important questions that need to be answered.
Peters has indoors and outdoors, but no cross country.
cody dome wrote:
What are y'all thinking for the PL this year? Did anyone get noteworthy recruits? Any impressive summer results? Does Rich Peters still have eligibility? Where is Elise Deroo?
All important questions that need to be answered.
Greg Hamalian is looking real good right now. Don't be surprised if he surprises and wins the whole damn thing.
Is Miller back for Lehigh? Heard he was applying for a 5th year waiver after missing last fall
q-train wrote:
Is Miller back for Lehigh? Heard he was applying for a 5th year waiver after missing last fall
It would appear he is:
http://www.lehighsports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=10076&path=mcrossGood for him. Lehigh does not appear to have the depth that they have had the past 2 years, but with Miller back and Mahalsky and an additional 3-4 solid returners, they should be contenders again
Chris Sacks 5th year eligibility?
Navy - Back on top for good
Lehigh -This year the patriot league is Mahalsky's to lose. I'm really proud of him
Army - Will peak for a dual meet again
American - slots are for wussies, so is winning
Holy Cross - Can't stop improving with the special sauce.
Boston - Rosa and I kept the boys goin
Colgate - Chris Johnson was end of all success
Lafayette - Ought to beat the team w/o track this go around
Loyola - Can't really blame them
Garcia-Garrison from the young bucks should be a threat after a breakout track season last spring. Look to him and mcgowan to lead a charge. Navy will be strong as always, Lehigh has to work on filling out their top 5 but should be up there as well.
Any frosh expected to make an impact this year?
Yes Garcia-Garrison and McGowan will be factors but bucknell shouldn't have the depth in their 3-5 guys to be that good. Same goes for Lehigh. After Mahalsky and miller, and maybe Evan Hardy, who do they have in their 3-5 guys? Navy has the talent and the depth. Based on the returners from last years race it should be Navy then American.
1/2 an answer wrote:
Peters has indoors and outdoors, but no cross country.
Peters has cross eligibility
Peters has cross eligibility[/quote]
No he doesn't.
http://www.goterriers.com/sports/m-xc/mtt/rich_peters_721426.html
No he doesn't.
2010 NCAA Regional 31:30
2011 NCAA Regional 32:37
2012 NCAA Regional 30:29
2013 NCAA Regional 31:17
This is going to be a weird year. No one is really as good as Anderson Hanko Rome Kosgei Johnson or Mueller have been in the past. There could be some random 14:40 guy that makes the jump and becomes champion this year. Compared to the past where a bunch of 14:00 5k usually are vying for the win.
You can throw out any Bucknell runners (unless the get hurt early in the year and by mistake actually peak right).
Navy has a school of guys that could step up and take it. Zach Hebda has the talent to dominate this league but he hasn't really run well since HS. Sweeney could step up and make a run at it I guess I have to throw in Ryan Kelly too if I put Sweeney in the mix.
BU ehhh maybe Kevin Thomas?
Lehigh...Mahalsky? If he runs to his potential then yeah. Does he still have eligibility?
Army Barger?
American Brendan Johnson perhaps?
I guess I'd say Hebda. He was a footlocker finalist and ran 9:00 in HS and talent doesn't go away. If he can put together the season he's capable of he'll win.
Agree that the league looks pretty wide open without a clear cut favorite like Hanko, Rome, Johnson etc. that's a very solid list but you are missing a couple of people, most notably Stephen Schroeder from Navy. He ran 14:00 last spring and along with Kelly (10,000 champ), Hebda and Sweeney, he should be a contender. Navy looks like the favorite.
From Lehigh, Mahalsky is the top returner in the league and also had a very good regional meet. You are forgetting Jimmy Miller though, who missed last xc season with injury but was 4th at the 2012 championships and ran 8:10/14:10 or so this past year. He is back for a 5th year.
You discounted Bucknell but they have a few who could contend. McGowan was 5th last year and is the 2nd returner. John Dugan was 3rd at the 2012 championships and had a good regional meet but missed last fall due to injury (and the track season?). Andrew Garcia-Garrison was runner up in both the 1500 and 800 this spring as well. They could all factor, and if Garcia-Garrison builds on his spring and Dugan can regain his previous form, Bucknell should be solid.
Boston U also has Alec Olson, who was the steeplechase champ this spring. Along with Kevin Thomas they will most likely improve on their finish from last season despite losing Peters as they seem to be deeper.
Johnson from American ran well in both xc during the outdoor season, so it will be interesting to see if he continues to improve and if American can contend.
I would say the favorite going into the season is Navy. However the dark horse is Bucknell. No team can match their top 3 with Dugan, Garcia-Garrison, and McGowan if they can all stay healthy. If they can put together two or three more guys that can finish in the top 20, they can win this thing.
I would say Lehigh should be a favorite. They're running on their home course and return the top returner as well as a 14:10 guy who was 4th in the league as a junior. If those two go some combination of 1-4 and they put 3 more in the top 15 (which they would based on last years returners) then theyre looking at under 50 points and a title.
"You discounted Bucknell but they have a few who could contend. McGowan was 5th last year and is the 2nd returner. John Dugan was 3rd at the 2012 championships and had a good regional meet but missed last fall due to injury (and the track season?). Andrew Garcia-Garrison was runner up in both the 1500 and 800 this spring as well. They could all factor, and if Garcia-Garrison builds on his spring and Dugan can regain his previous form, Bucknell should be solid."
…wasn't Dugan hurt early in the season the year he ended up 3rd? (thus allowing him to actually peak at the Patriot League Championship despite being on Bucknell's team)
Dugan was Rookie of the Year his frosh year at XC PL's, 5th in the steeple in Outdoors. Sophomore Year he was 3rd in XC 6th in indoor 5k and 2nd in the steeple. His Junior year he was injured for XC and indoor but pulled off a top 5 steeple finish, which had to have been on next to nothing training. Most impressive resume based solely on his ability at the championship meets. He's my pick for the win if he can stay healthy.
What are the thoughts on top 10? I'd say
The top returners are
1. Mahalsky
2. McGowan
3. Regan
4. Peckham
5. Johnson
6. Hebda
7. Davis
8. Gilboy
9. Thomas
10. Rowe
And then you have to factor in Miller, Schroeder, and Dugan in the mix.