Do you REALLY think it's okay to kill animals for food?

UK Limey runner wrote:

Robert Harrington wrote:

Agriculture is the big evil here. So's technology, truth be told, but agriculture came first. We were a much happier species in the hunter-gatherer days, were healthier, had more free time and virtually idyllic lives. We screwed up.

Hom Saps have long ago outlived their usefulness on this planet.

Your post does not make a lot of sense. Agriculture did not 'come first', agriculture IS technology. So for that matter were the tools our ancestors started making about 3 million years ago as began the transition from pure gatherers to hunter-gatherers. Describing our hunter-gatherer days as idyllic? That's pure fantasy.

As to our usefulness? Animals have no usefulness. The purpose of a species is to survive. Any other aspiration is a construct of human imagination.

Their usefulness is that they let other species survive by providing a food source either directly or indirectly. Animals also shape the environment to the benefit or detriment of other species.

UK Limey runner wrote:

Robert Harrington wrote:

Agriculture is the big evil here. So's technology, truth be told, but agriculture came first. We were a much happier species in the hunter-gatherer days, were healthier, had more free time and virtually idyllic lives. We screwed up.

Hom Saps have long ago outlived their usefulness on this planet.

Your post does not make a lot of sense. Agriculture did not 'come first', agriculture IS technology. So for that matter were the tools our ancestors started making about 3 million years ago as began the transition from pure gatherers to hunter-gatherers. Describing our hunter-gatherer days as idyllic? That's pure fantasy.

As to our usefulness? Animals have no usefulness. The purpose of a species is to survive. Any other aspiration is a construct of human imagination.

What is it, anyway, about the contributors to this forum who positively drench themselves in nit-pickery? I am reminded of the old days of usenet. Lol.

I hate to get dictionary with you, but ... actually I don't hate it at all. Anyway, one acceptable definition of technology is ...

2. Machinery and devices developed from scientific knowledge. ('OK google,' on my ipad.)

Go ahead and argue that includes rocks for digging if you like. Does it ultimately make some kind of useful point? Oh I'm sorry, 'useful' is an artificial human construct and I must not use it. Lol. Read on.

Second, the fact that usefulness is an artificial human construct means I can't use the notion in a sentence? I can't say things like 'humans have outlived their usefulness' BECAUSE it's an artificial human construct? Are you serious?

Maybe you've just been eating too much red meat. Yeah, that must be it ....

Captain Oblivious. wrote:

Well, there is always this wrote:

As long as it is all virtual I'm not sure that it really matters one way or another.

So, whatever floats your boat.

Ciao.

Which direction are you located in?

Cheers.

North

Bhyhkudgyio

Robert Harrington wrote:

Anyway, one acceptable definition of technology is ...

2. Machinery and devices developed from scientific knowledge. ('OK google,' on my ipad.)

I like the way you selected definition number '2', and avoid all the primary definitions that refer to tools and the art of the hand.

Your posts on this thread have definitely been entertaining though. Please do continue. I am most amused.

Bad Wigins wrote:

subfive wrote:

I think we all recognize that that cows have feelings and can suffer.

And those of us who are in tune with nature are wise enough not to care. Yes, they suffer. Eat them anyway.

With our higher consciousness comes the capacity for empathy ....to varing degrees. Empathy is intentionality directed at consciousness. It's part of our nature.

When I had some bacon this morning I did not think about the pig that it came from because I don't get involved in that part of the process. But if I had to personally kill that pig...it would bother me ...some. I actually witnessed the slaughtering of hogs when I was young. Although, I don't recall that it affected my enjoyment of eating bacon?

There are other human behaviors that were common as we look back in time. But humans have the tedancy to deviate from common beliefs and behaviors as we move through time. Eating cows and pigs will probably go out of style in the distant future?

UK Limey runner wrote:

Robert Harrington wrote:

Anyway, one acceptable definition of technology is ...

2. Machinery and devices developed from scientific knowledge. ('OK google,' on my ipad.)

I like the way you selected definition number '2', and avoid all the primary definitions that refer to tools and the art of the hand.

Your posts on this thread have definitely been entertaining though. Please do continue. I am most amused.

So, you noticed I used definition number 2 and 'ignored' the others, eh? Did this ever occur to you, Einstein, that if I was trying to hide something I wouldn't have used the '2' at all?

JEEEZUS. Too bad missing the point isn't an Olympic event. Why, you'd be a shoo-in for Rio in 2016. Britain's loss.

I'm glad I amuse you, though. You, on the other hand, are about as amusing as a cold slice of white toast.

Well, there is always this wrote:

Captain Oblivious. wrote:

Which direction are you located in?

Cheers.

North

Bhyhkudgyio

Iknewit.

You know that thing called the Food Chain? Man is at the top of it.