2014 Lucerne Results: Andy Bayer 12 second pb to 8:25!! Donn Cabral 8:22, Forys 8:24, Torrence 1:46, Grunewald 15:33.

Leave it, the typos on Let's Run are half the fun and kind of amusing on several levels.

FWIW I got into an Ivy (and Caltech and Stanford) because I was a good student, not because of family connections.

Folks, please don't think that LRC is necessarily an accurate reflection of the typical ILer's abilities to spell, punctuate, make good word choices, and so on.

"Subject: 2014 Lucerne Results: Andy Bayer 12 second pb to 9:25!! "

9:25? Awesome, He might take the JO title next week in Houston.

Good to see Cabral working his way back from Lyme

Apparently Grunwald was the rabbit in the 5k but decided to finish. That's what downthebackstretch says:

http://downthebackstretch.blogspot.com/2014/07/news-grunewald-finan-lightening.html

The full results for the today's meet in Lucerne can be found at the following link:

http://www.spitzenleichtathletik.ch/ergebnisse

We've done our best to paste the mid-d and distance results for you below.

The IAAF recap of the meet is here:

http://www.iaaf.org/news/report/spitzen-lucerne-valerie-adams-ahye-powell

The big distance news was a big pb for 2012 NCAA 1500 champ Andy Bayer who went from 8:37 to 8:25.

Men's Steeple

Rk. StNr. Name Jg. Nat. Verein Leistung

1. 283 Kemboi Clement Kimutai 1992 KEN Kenia 8:21.50 1./I

2. 284 Kipsang Lawrence Kemboi 1993 KEN Kenia 8:22.25 2./I

3. 471 Cabral Donn 1989 USA USA 8:22.40 3./I

4. 390 Nganga Bernard 1985 KEN Kenia 8:23.18 4./I

5. 365 Forys Craig 1989 USA USA 8:24.09 5./I

6. 271 Bayer Andrew 1990 USA USA 8:25.71 6./I

7. 378 Uliczka Steffen 1984 GER Germany 8:26.79 7./I

8. 389 Koech John 1985 BRN Bahrain 8:26.82 8./I

9. 344 Winter Chris 1986 CAN Canada 8:28.17 9./I

10. 407 Steinhammer Christian 1988 AUT Austria 8:43.40 10./I

11. 369 Cotter Tomas 1990 IRL Ireland 8:47.23 11./I

12. 343 Milne Taylor 1981 CAN Canada 8:48.12 12./I

13. 368 Neeman Noam 1987 ISR Israel 8:55.08 13./I

14. 346 Hentschel Felix 1988 GER Germany 8:57.67 14./I

15. 129 Engelhardt Adriano 1992 SUI US Ascona 9:05.48 15./I

16. 130 Kern Marco 1987 SUI LC Schaffhausen 9:25.62 16./I

Men's 800

Lauf

Rk. StNr. Name Jg. Nat. Verein Leistung

1. 404 Rowe Alexander 1992 AUS Australia 1:45.73 1./I

2. 268 Balla Musaeb 1989 QAT Qatar 1:45.79 2./I

3. 416 Riseley Jeffrey 1986 AUS Australia 1:46.23 3./I

4. 362 Mutai Jeremiah 1992 KEN Kenia 1:46.28 4./I

5. 364 Torrance David 1985 USA USA 1:46.71 5./I

6. 149 Santacruz Hugo 1988 SUI LC Rapperswil-Jona 1:46.95 6./I

7. 434 Repcik Jozef 1986 SVK Slovakia 1:47.07 7./I

8. 383 James Jamaal 1988 TTO Trinidad and Tobago 1:47.20 8./I

9. 148 Hochstrasser Jan 1988 SUI BTV Aarau LA 1:47.95 9./I

10. 147 Christen Roland 1991 SUI STV Willisau 1:50.38 10./I

11. 152 Curti Michael 1994 SUI LC Therwil 1:51.31 11./I

12. 397 Kawamoto Sho 1993 JPN Japan 1:51.66 12./I

354 Benitz Timo 1991 GER Germany n.a.

350 Scherrer Matthew 1993 USA USA aufg.

Women's 5000

inale

Rk. StNr. Name Jg. Nat. Verein Leistung

1. 409 Ndiwa Stacy 1992 KEN Kenia 15:15.14 1./I

2. 424 Whittle Laura 1985 GBR Great Britain 15:20.92 2./I

3. 314 Mori Yuika 1988 JPN Japan 15:25.58 3./I

4. 329 Felix Ana Dulce 1982 POR Portugal 15:27.13 4./I

5. 310 Grunewald Gabriele 1986 USA USA 15:33.64 5./I

6. 352 Britton Fionnuala 1984 IRL Ireland 15:38.01 6./I

7. 393 Omori Natsuki 1994 JPN Japan 15:39.96 7./I

8. 366 Penney Lauren 1990 USA USA 15:43.02 8./I

9. 411 Tesema Zerfie 1991 ETH Ethiopia 15:49.68 9./I

10. 391 Shoji Mai 1993 JPN Japan 15:51.25 10./I

11. 491 Erdelyi Zofia 1987 HUN Hungary 15:51.49 11./I

12. 316 Takechi Shiho 1990 JPN Japan 15:53.35 12./I

13. 135 Spirig Nicola 1982 SUI LC Zürich 15:54.00 13./I

14. 351 Lehtinen Johanna 1979 FIN Finland 15:56.16 14./I

15. 410 Geremev Melkitu 1992 ETH Ethiopia 16:02.64 15./I

16. 420 Nowakowska Dominika 1985 POL Poland 16:33.44 16./I

17. 392 Tsuda Mai 1993 JPN Japan 16:38.86 17./I

18. 394 Fukuchi Sakurako 1993 JPN Japan 16:57.11 18./I

388 Grovdal Karoline 1990 NOR Norway n.a.

Alex Rowe is on fire.

Rather than merely cut/paste at least massage the data so that it's easy to read.

1 8:21.50 Kemboi Clement Kimutai KEN

2 8:22.25 Kipsang Lawrence Kemboi KEN

3 8:22.40 Cabral Donn USA

4 8:23.18 Nganga Bernard KEN

5 8:24.09 Forys Craig USA

6 8:25.71 Bayer Andrew USA

7 8:26.79 Uliczka Steffen GER

8 8:26.82 Koech John BRN

9 8:28.17 Winter Chris CAN

10 8:43.40 Steinhammer Christian AUT

11 8:47.23 Cotter Tomas IRL

12 8:48.12 Milne Taylor CAN

13 8:55.08 Neeman Noam ISR

14 8:57.67 Hentschel Felix GER

15 9:05.48 Engelhardt Adriano SUI

16 9:25.62 Kern Marco SUI

Awesome to see Forys running so fast.

Data is data, malmo, it shouldn't be spoon-fed. I read that perfectly fine.

The big news is that a 3:34/7:43 guy ran 8:25 in the steeple? That's not news no matter what his pr was before. A 7:43 guy with an 8:37 pr is obviously a massive pr mismatch to start with. Let's get some perspective.

It's bigger news that Forys pr'd by 2 seconds, 8:24 is a fantastic time.

it is big news if an athlete can match a steeple PR to his other PRs after only doing the event a handful of times.

8:25 is one of the top american steeple times this year, and hopefully the 12 second PR means he's got a long way to go.

come on, lazybones. At least write first name first.

A 3:36 guy ran 10:17.

http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/united-states/andrew-j-acosta-226187#progression

Way to go Craig Forys! NJ Class of 2007 stand up!

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

come on, lazybones. At least write first name first.

If that's what you need then do it yourself. LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME is a common order for results.

Mrr82 wrote:

The big news is that a 3:34/7:43 guy ran 8:25 in the steeple? That's not news no matter what his pr was before. A 7:43 guy with an 8:37 pr is obviously a massive pr mismatch to start with. Let's get some perspective.

It's bigger news that Forys pr'd by 2 seconds, 8:24 is a fantastic time.

reed wrote:

it is big news if an athlete can match a steeple PR to his other PRs after only doing the event a handful of times.

8:25 is one of the top american steeple times this year, and hopefully the 12 second PR means he's got a long way to go.

Mrr82 is right. This is a 3:53 miler running 8:25. He's got drop down to 8:10 before he's running on par. (I kinda think he's going to do it). Don't kid yourself, he is no novice steeplechaser. He's been training for the event with two of the best American steeplers in history for over three months. That's about 11 weeks more steeplechase experience than I had in four full years of college.

The real story is Forys, who for awhile there looked to be another hs stud/college bust headed for nowhere. Then his senior he rallied bigtime with an 8:28. Now he is quietly improving.

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

A 3:36 guy ran 10:17.

http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/united-states/andrew-j-acosta-226187#progression

A random poor performance doesn't make this one any better.

Bayer has run 23 seconds off the 3K world record, last year which no one In the world would say isn't a tougher WR than the steeple which is held by a 7:32/12:48 guy. Not a Komen level record. Bayer just ran 32 seconds off the steeple WR a year after his 7:43. You would hope he'd be fitter so those numbers would be even more lopsided if there was something to be excited about which would make this performance even less relevant.

It's a step in the right direction but let's start talking about steeping when he runs under 8:15.

Not putting down Bayer, it's his own high level of prs which make this for now not that interesting, I'd be more encouraged if he was pr'ing in the 1500/3k since those are strong marks.

srturt wrote:

FWIW I got into an Ivy (and Caltech and Stanford) because I was a good student, not because of family connections.

Folks, please don't think that LRC is necessarily an accurate reflection of the typical ILer's abilities to spell, punctuate, make good word choices, and so on.

I went to Caltech. It's not an Ivy. Neither is Stanford for that matter. I made it to Caltech because of grades, test scores, performance in some math / science contests. Caltech almost never lets anyone in via connections, unlike the IL schools. They are a sham. Look up Ron Unz's re how his own people now get into those schools because of what they are, their ethnicity, rather than grades and test scores today. Yet they still pretend to be discriminated against. Or when this is brought up they mention "legacy" students - as long as they are non-tribal. And the non-tribal legacy students are a distinct minority. But they get played up while the huge flotilla of undeserving chosen kids gets the slots over large numbers of hated white males and droves of very hard working Asians.