Ben True just ran a 3:37 1500 time trial

In trainers?

What makes you think 3:37 is equivalent to sub-13?

He certainly has a chance for sub 13, but it would have to be a near perfect race. He had pacers for the TT, and Rupp just dipped under 13 the year he ran 3:34 at Oxy.

Crazy fast wrote:

As per his twitter and LR front page. That is fast! Sub 13 in the books soon!!

Crazy fast wrote:

As per his twitter and LR front page. That is fast! Sub 13 in the books soon!!

Actually, the news about the 3:37 is per the twitter of Sam Chelanga, True's coach.

True's own feed doesn't mention it. Yet anyway.

Also, for those wondering why True would run so fast so close to his race, Chelanga's tweet is from three days ago (Friday).

He does not have a 1500m pr listed on IAAF's website but only a mile pr of 3:59.99 from 2007! 3:37 time trial is indicative of 3:35 in a race, at least, which is worth 3:53 mile. His 5000m pr is 13:02. He's clearly ready to break 13. His speed is now where it needs to be, given his outstanding endurance, and obviously he was very close already in a 13:02 race.

Why would he fare better in a race than a TT with pacers?

Teg and Rupp were both 3:34 when they broke 13

Before his big race against Walton, Quenton Cassidy ran a PR in a time trial by himself. At night, even.

I think True will be just fine.

So what? Webb once ran a 2:45 1200 time trial, and was moderately relaxed.

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

He does not have a 1500m pr listed on IAAF's website but only a mile pr of 3:59.99 from 2007! 3:37 time trial is indicative of 3:35 in a race, at least, which is worth 3:53 mile. His 5000m pr is 13:02. He's clearly ready to break 13. His speed is now where it needs to be, given his outstanding endurance, and obviously he was very close already in a 13:02 race.

He ran 3:40 early last spring (don't remember which meet, and not looking it up right now), in a fairly slow race, against some quality milers, and blew the field away in the last 200 to coast to the victory.

He clearly was already in 3:38-ish shape then.

He also was ready to get pretty close to 13 mins already last summer (he thought so, and I agreed, based on several performances), but didn't quite get the right race at the right time.

He clearly looks to be in at least slightly better shape this year, and he already produced the awesome 13:02, where the paced lagged a little for a couple laps when the pacer dropped out, and he's now got a 1500 PR to throw in there.

Yeah, if things fall right, he's clearly got a shot to crack 13 right now.

If it's a nice night, and guys are feeling well, and a couple of the Africans want to run fast, and push a steady stream of 62's,... we could see Rupp go 12:50, Ben go 12:5-high.

Should be fun.

(My question is, if there's a lead pack moving right at 62, does Ben want to ride that train, or would he worry it's a little too hot?

My guess would be, if he's feeling good going in, he goes for it, and tries to gut it out the last couple laps, and see how long he can hold it.

He might run 12:57,... and he might crash bad, to 13:20.

Should be very cool to see.)

Rupp's best time is 12:58, the only time he's bettered 13.

He is not going to run 12:50 haha. :)

Chelanga is True's coach? Who coaches Gatlin? Tyson Gay?

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

He does not have a 1500m pr listed on IAAF's website but only a mile pr of 3:59.99 from 2007! 3:37 time trial is indicative of 3:35 in a race...

If he had pacers and ran even splits, then that's as perfect as it gets. You don't get an automatic 2 second bonus for doing it in a race.

J.R. wrote:

Rupp's best time is 12:58, the only time he's bettered 13.

He is not going to run 12:50 haha. :)

Rupp may not EVER enter the 12:48-12:49 club, and at any rate ain't going there this week. I think both of our guys at 12:58-12:59 would be Great!

Rund al'Thor wrote:

Before his big race against Walton, Quenton Cassidy ran a PR in a time trial by himself. At night, even.

I think True will be just fine.

Well, good thing we are using real life examples.

all i dar is win wrote:

Rund al'Thor wrote:

Before his big race against Walton, Quenton Cassidy ran a PR in a time trial by himself. At night, even.

I think True will be just fine.

Well, good thing we are using real life examples.

But has True run 60x400 workout?

At the track in Reston wrote:

So what? Webb once ran a 2:45 1200 time trial, and was moderately relaxed.

But was he update?

all i dar is win wrote:

Why would he fare better in a race than a TT with pacers?

Teg and Rupp were both 3:34 when they broke 13

Solinksy ran 3:35.9 before running 12:55. Give True the benefit of the doubt and say conservatively he's in 3:36.xx shape. No reason to think he's not capable of sub 13, especially when he went 13:02 last year. He's only running better this year.

While I have the utmost respect for Ben True, I do not condone tweeting about workouts. Keep your workouts to yourself, line up, race fast. Then after the race you may say "I had a great workout last week that indicated that I could hit this time in a race".