Missed it by that much...
.3 of a second. 17:06.9 (NP)vs 17:06.6(SE)
Any body have the splits?
Missed it by that much...
.3 of a second. 17:06.9 (NP)vs 17:06.6(SE)
Any body have the splits?
Probably would've gotten tossed if they had broken it--check the cones. No curb on the track.
Don't know the splits.
South Eugene survived a close one.
It could be a while before another team gets close....
Wow. So close.
True, no rail and cones positioned incorrectly.
kittykat wrote:
Probably would've gotten tossed if they had broken it--check the cones. No curb on the track.
Do you really think South Eugene had a rail back in the 70s? Missed by less if you consider hand time against auto. First couple of legs a little too slow. Put too much on the last guy who had to run whole race by himself. I got appr 4:25, 4:14, 4:18 and 4:08 for the four. Add tenths.
DAMN! That record is from the '70's. SO close. What a performance!
In Toni Reavis's blog yesterday he pointed out that Christian Brothers H.S. in Lincroft, NJ ran 17:07.17 earlier this year. If that is truly the case then 2 teams have come within a second of that revered record set back in 1976 by South Eugene High. The late Billy McChesney, my friend and former Olympic Teammate in 1980, and his teammates breathed a sigh of relief yesterday, I'm sure. That just shows you how good they were back then. I also agree that the Brooks meet should have had their track facility up to snuff technically so that any records would be recognized if set. That was a disappointment but I'm not sure that South Eugene ran their race with a rail either. Over the course of 16 laps... I'm not sure it is that meaningful to the authenticity of the time, though. Kudos again to the boys from Northport H.S. Given the resurgence in H.S. middle/long distance running right now... I doubt if it will be 39 more years before we see 3 sub-9:00 2-milers on the same team again... but it is a remarkable feat nevertheless.... Question now is how many of them will go on to improve further in college.
Craig Virgin wrote:
In Toni Reavis's blog yesterday he pointed out that Christian Brothers H.S. in Lincroft, NJ ran 17:07.17 earlier this year. If that is truly the case then 2 teams have come within a second of that revered record set back in 1976 by South Eugene High. The late Billy McChesney, my friend and former Olympic Teammate in 1980, and his teammates breathed a sigh of relief yesterday, I'm sure. That just shows you how good they were back then. I also agree that the Brooks meet should have had their track facility up to snuff technically so that any records would be recognized if set. That was a disappointment but I'm not sure that South Eugene ran their race with a rail either. Over the course of 16 laps... I'm not sure it is that meaningful to the authenticity of the time, though. Kudos again to the boys from Northport H.S. Given the resurgence in H.S. middle/long distance running right now... I doubt if it will be 39 more years before we see 3 sub-9:00 2-milers on the same team again... but it is a remarkable feat nevertheless.... Question now is how many of them will go on to improve further in college.
CBA ran that at NBNI, where Gig Harbor finished a close second in 17:08.44 and Brentwood third in 17:15.58. Including Northport's race at Brooks, that means the #2, #3, #4 and #10 marks All-Time were ran this year!
Northport was a last minute, dark horse entry. I am from WA, so a bit biased to the homer teams, but these guys were incredible.
Splits: First leg was 4:21 for third position, the twins both ran about 4:15 for the lead, then Mike Brannigan ran a mind-blowing 4:06, by himself into the wind. His anchor was one of the most inspiring displays of guts I've ever seen, notwithstanding his autism. That kid wanted it BAD and really delivered. What a couple of weekends these kids have had!
Tim McGowan just texted me that their first leg, Justin, ran 4:21, Tim ran 4:14, Jack ran 4:18, and Mike ran 4:10. I haven't checked the math on that yet... but I am sure he got that from his coach... after the race. Mike Brannigan did not run 4:06 but he did run a very inspired leg at the end. And, yes, this year marked an all-out assault on South Eugene's record...and it barely survived.... but what a year for the 4 x 1 Mile relay that we have had. American H.S. distance running was certainly impressive this year... despite no sub-4:00 mile or sub-8:44 2-mile.. so far. I have not even began to speak to the improvement in the girls races... where a girls has gone pro early and another might soon. There is some real super nova's of performance on that side of the gender gap right now. The future for both girls and boys H.S. middle and long distance running looks bright as these kids are now adopting a different mental outlook and air of expectation. That's what it takes.....now we just have to make sure that there is a fair and level playing field.... with so many of these foreign imports at both the H.S. and college level... appearing way older than what their passports profess.... but that is another story/discussion for another time.....
Look at around 4:30 in the Flotrack video:
The handoff between the first and second leg cost them the record. SO CLOSE!
Great runs by Northport, Gig, Hale, and Garfield, all of whom topped the New Balance performances and secured spots 1-4 for outdoor national rankings. Having three Western Washington teams represent like that is especially pleasing for us Puget Sounders.
Those splits that Craig gives sound more realistic, I was going off what the announcers were giving out at various times.
Craig, there was a curb on the track when South set the current 4xmile record.
Pretty sure the 2008 Dana hills team could have smashed that record had they run it. They had 4 under 4:15 in the 1600 that year and 2 right at 4:10.
I think the Brea boys with Tamagno could have also given it a scare this year.
Brea had
4:06 full mile
4:10.1
4:18
4:26
It's nice to think this crew is close to the South crew, they are not.
The south record is so much softer then those guys were. if those guys had a race the record would be sub 17...
How many kids in the us have run sub 4:08 in high school and been the third best runner on their own team, John Gustafson ran 4:08.00 that year and he ran 4:18 in the record race.
Where are the FAT splits posted? Only splits I found are posted on a NY website (boys record page on tullyrunners and they add up to 17:06.9)
Justin Leopold 4:24.6
Tim McGowan 4:14.7
Jack McGowan 4:18.7
Mike Brannigan 4:08.9
Look for a story on South Eugene and Jeff Hess in the August issue of Running Times, out in a few weeks.
Dolphin alum wrote:
Pretty sure the 2008 Dana hills team could have smashed that record had they run it. They had 4 under 4:15 in the 1600 that year and 2 right at 4:10.
I think the Brea boys with Tamagno could have also given it a scare this year.
Brea had
4:06 full mile
4:10.1
4:18
4:26
Valid teams to theorize about, but those are also the kind of statements that get you in trouble predicting distance relay team times.
Gustafson set a HS record in the steeple in'75.
South did not have three under 4:08 in the same year.