Northport boys get 3 guys under 9:00 at Nationals!!!!!!!! 1st, 3rd, and 4th, with Mike Brannigan, and Tim and Jack Mcgowan! In 8:52, 8:56, 8:57! It's happened again!
Northport boys get 3 guys under 9:00 at Nationals!!!!!!!! 1st, 3rd, and 4th, with Mike Brannigan, and Tim and Jack Mcgowan! In 8:52, 8:56, 8:57! It's happened again!
Meant 8:53 for Brannigan
impressive. Hammond still takes the cake seeing as none of them (Chapa, Keough, Pinkowski) were twins.
Realism wrote:
impressive. Hammond still takes the cake seeing as none of them (Chapa, Keough, Pinkowski) were twins.
But these guys all did it in one meet.
pre841 wrote:
impressive. Hammond still takes the cake seeing as none of them (Chapa, Keough, Pinkowski) were twins.
Realism wrote:
But these guys all did it in one meet.
The Hammond trio could have easily done it in the same meet, but back then they couldn't run more than one race at a given meet so they often only put two in the 2 mile and the third in the 1 mile to get more points.
qwertypoiuy wrote:
The Hammond trio could have easily...
Butt they didn't. Fantasizing is cute, but if it didn't happen, it didn't happen.
Butt didn't wrote:
qwertypoiuy wrote:The Hammond trio could have easily...
Butt they didn't. Fantasizing is cute, but if it didn't happen, it didn't happen.
This is true, I'll concede, but they still didn't have a set of twins. In my opinion, that trumps what happened today. I'm not trying to diminish the accomplishment and say it's not amazing or saying twins don't count, but instead of having 3 individually genetically gifted runners, you only have 3 runners with two different set of genes.
Realism wrote:
impressive. Hammond still takes the cake seeing as none of them (Chapa, Keough, Pinkowski) were twins.
how many teams have had 2 guys go sub-9 who weren't twins?
How does the 'twin' thing diminish this? Are they actually the same guy? No. They had two distinct race numbers, both show up on the finish photos, etc... Being twins means nothing in the comparison.
What DOES mean something is the fact that Hammond did it decades before these kids were born. THIS is what renders today's event meaningless. If Tirunesh and Sileshi's as-yet-unborn daughter breaks 2:16 30 years from now, I will say the same thing I'm saying now:
THIS WOULD BE IMPORTANT IF YOU DID IT 40 YEARS AGO!!
Laughably insignificant.
Big Fan wrote:
How does the 'twin' thing diminish this? Are they actually the same guy? No. They had two distinct race numbers, both show up on the finish photos, etc... Being twins means nothing in the comparison.
What DOES mean something is the fact that Hammond did it decades before these kids were born. THIS is what renders today's event meaningless. If Tirunesh and Sileshi's as-yet-unborn daughter breaks 2:16 30 years from now, I will say the same thing I'm saying now:
THIS WOULD BE IMPORTANT IF YOU DID IT 40 YEARS AGO!!
Laughably insignificant.
Speaking of laffable……Hey Fat Fan, what are you a big fan of??? Certainly not track, as this was a great result - having 3 boys from same team all run under 9:00 in the same race
Not on a team in this event NBON does not recognize school teams.
Another way to look at it: 3 guys about a minute slowere than the WR. Would 3 guys running 30 seconds slower than the Mile WR be significant? No it would not, and happens in HS miles every year. How about 15 slower than WR for 800?
qwertypoiuy wrote:
pre841 wrote:impressive. Hammond still takes the cake seeing as none of them (Chapa, Keough, Pinkowski) were twins.
Realism wrote:
But these guys all did it in one meet.
The Hammond trio could have easily done it in the same meet, but back then they couldn't run more than one race at a given meet so they often only put two in the 2 mile and the third in the 1 mile to get more points.
So what you're saying is that if they could only double thew would have all broken 9:00? Serious?
Actually, none of the three are on any team as official school season in their state is over. Wasn't graduation last night? Not all of them are actual, enrolled students at that school. The school year was in session, and the actual, official season underway when the Hammond trio did it!
Lapa
Jambalaya is right. They would all 3 have had to run only the 2 mile. Doubling, none would have done it.
Again, this is not momentous. Boys AR for 10,000 is only several seconds per mile slower for more than 3 times the distance.
Get back to me when 3 high schoolers run 28 and change for 10k in the same race.
Big Fan wrote:
Jambalaya is right. They would all 3 have had to run only the 2 mile. Doubling, none would have done it.
Again, this is not momentous. Boys AR for 10,000 is only several seconds per mile slower for more than 3 times the distance.
Actually Chapa, the fastest of the Hammond trio, might have been able to double 1 and 2 mile and still break 9 in the two mile since he holds the high school 10k record at 28:32.
Big Fan wrote:
How does the 'twin' thing diminish this? Are they actually the same guy? No. They had two distinct race numbers, both show up on the finish photos, etc... Being twins means nothing in the comparison.
Actually, I specifically said it didn't diminish how amazing it was. I only said the Hammond trio's accomplishment was a little better. The twin thing does matter because almost every team that had more than one runner on a team break 9 for the two mile were twins showing it is much easier for a team to have more runners break 9 than without twins.
Big Fan wrote:
Not on a team in this event NBON does not recognize school teams.
Another way to look at it: 3 guys about a minute slower than the WR. Would 3 guys running 30 seconds slower than the Mile WR be significant? No it would not, and happens in HS miles every year. How about 15 slower than WR for 800?
This is terrible logic.