Really? Because that 56 tells me he could have ran 13:12 or so. And at his age you better believe he should be thinking about moving north to Salazar and crew. It's not abut what he can run today it's about what he can run in two years. And there's little doubt in my mind he'd be faster with Salazar.
Hot wrote:
A 13:18 5k with a 56 last lap won't get him anywhere as a pro. And how the heck would you know about his intelligence? I think someone on here said he was serious about academics.
Valid point, I agree that he would be faster with Salazar. We just don't know how fast. I think he should do at least another year at UO to see how I (he) develops. Don't get me wrong, he's VERY good, but I'm not convinced he can hack it with the pros in the near future. He will get there if he continues at this rate.
Hank Moody wrote:Hot wrote:Really? Because that 56 tells me he could have ran 13:12 or so. And at his age you better believe he should be thinking about moving north to Salazar and crew. It's not abut what he can run today it's about what he can run in two years. And there's little doubt in my mind he'd be faster with Salazar.
A 13:18 5k with a 56 last lap won't get him anywhere as a pro. And how the heck would you know about his intelligence? I think someone on here said he was serious about academics.
That said the kid should get an education. He's going to be phenomenal regardless of whether it's in two years or four.
And we know for sure that saladbar will get him no problem.
Hot wrote:Hank Moody wrote:Valid point, I agree that he would be faster with Salazar. We just don't know how fast. I think he should do at least another year at UO to see how I (he) develops. Don't get me wrong, he's VERY good, but I'm not convinced he can hack it with the pros in the near future. He will get there if he continues at this rate.Hot wrote:Really? Because that 56 tells me he could have ran 13:12 or so. And at his age you better believe he should be thinking about moving north to Salazar and crew. It's not abut what he can run today it's about what he can run in two years. And there's little doubt in my mind he'd be faster with Salazar.
A 13:18 5k with a 56 last lap won't get him anywhere as a pro. And how the heck would you know about his intelligence? I think someone on here said he was serious about academics.
That said the kid should get an education. He's going to be phenomenal regardless of whether it's in two years or four.
Why do you think he'd be faster with Salazar? Salazar can't even get his current group running faster. He excels at tactics not fitness.
Hot wrote:
Valid point, I agree that he would be faster with Salazar. We just don't know how fast. I think he should do at least another year at UO to see how I (he) develops. Don't get me wrong, he's VERY good, but I'm not convinced he can hack it with the pros in the near future. He will get there if he continues at this rate.
I was actually gonna start a thread asking if everyone thought he would pull a Centro and bail out of the minor league that is NCAA.
thisguy wrote:
Plus, with Lawi graduating he basically has no competition within the NCAA. I guess he could stick around and collect titles, but for the sake of his development I hope he goes pro.
He's going toe to toe with a 13:00/3:33 guy, time to move out of the minor league.
Newsflash. Rupp just set an American record.
lsosk wrote:Hot wrote:Why do you think he'd be faster with Salazar? Salazar can't even get his current group running faster. He excels at tactics not fitness.
Valid point, I agree that he would be faster with Salazar. We just don't know how fast. I think he should do at least another year at UO to see how I (he) develops. Don't get me wrong, he's VERY good, but I'm not convinced he can hack it with the pros in the near future. He will get there if he continues at this rate.
The problem is, if there is some sort of magic to be had with the trappings of Salazar's programme and Nike, it is not enjoyed by all. Galen Rupp has bore the fruits of it to an extreme degree because he has enjoyed focused attention. I don't think Cheserek turning pro today or even two years from now will receive such focus. It seems to me with so many runners swelling those training groups, rather than benefiting from some alleged synergy, many seem to be falling by the way-side. Sure, Jager, Derrick and Bumbalough are doing nice in Jerry's group, but what about all the other runners? Cheserek is a great talent down the line, and he deserves to be established in his own self and receive proper attention, and not perhaps fade into obscurity and lack of progress in some professional stable.
lsosk wrote:Hot wrote:Why do you think he'd be faster with Salazar? Salazar can't even get his current group running faster. He excels at tactics not fitness.
Valid point, I agree that he would be faster with Salazar. We just don't know how fast. I think he should do at least another year at UO to see how I (he) develops. Don't get me wrong, he's VERY good, but I'm not convinced he can hack it with the pros in the near future. He will get there if he continues at this rate.
Still, he's technically a junior in college.
NotAustin18 wrote:
the kid ran 13:18 a year removed from HS. Just realize how good he is for his age. Let him develop in this program that he's improved so much in while getting his education. Then he can go to Salazar. As much as he improved this year, sky's the limit next year.
Going pro in track certainly does not prevent anyone from getting an education.
Hank Moody wrote:
That said the kid should get an education. He's going to be phenomenal regardless of whether it's in two years or four.
Well, he did - and that was a great time, I'm taking nothing away from it or him.
SMJO wrote:
Newsflash. Rupp just set an American record.