Salazar said they were doing 10k training and trained through OXY HP. Salazar said Rupp could have run 10 seconds faster in his AR. There was a decent wind that night. So pretty much Rupp had a 26:34 in him, which is 13:17 pace, which is 2 seconds faster per 5k than he did in an all out one just a couple weeks prior.
Explain please
uhh how about he was training through it? ever heard of dead legs? glycogen storage is important
explain please wrote:
Salazar said they were doing 10k training and trained through OXY HP. Salazar said Rupp could have run 10 seconds faster in his AR. There was a decent wind that night. So pretty much Rupp had a 26:34 in him, which is 13:17 pace, which is 2 seconds faster per 5k than he did in an all out one just a couple weeks prior.
Explain please
Bad, slow race at slow pace.
Two weeks later.
Good, fast race at fast pace.
And here's the important part so pay attention;
Sometimes people have good races, and sometimes people have bad races.
vampgaze wrote:
uhh how about he was training through it? ever heard of dead legs? glycogen storage is important
Glycogen storage is irrelevant in races this short.
Daniel Komen ran a 13:0x 5000 then a week or so later ran a 7:20 3000. Please explain.
"glycogen storage"?
COME ON BRO. It doesn't make THAT much of a difference. The kid is obviously on the centro sauce with a lil makhloufi mix topped off with some ramzi raisins
LMAO "glycoen storage" how about you all explain to me how a id who can barely break 4 couple years ago is able to run fresh as a daisy 1:57 last 800m and smile and slow up like he just el geurroujed the whole freakingtown LOL
Answer wrote:
Daniel Komen ran a 13:0x 5000 then a week or so later ran a 7:20 3000. Please explain.
Likely EPO.
Komen was notorious for heavy cycles, considered heavy even for the EPO Era. Apparently very cocky as well and not liked on the circuit. He essentially doped himself to the clouds and ran himself into the ground. Didn't enjoy running, but was all about the money. Once he got the money, he got lazy.
An egregious, self-centered doper with no concern for pace. His 3k will NEVER be broken, and neither will his 2-mile record. They are virtually untouchable without huge doses of blood-boosters.
You just explained it to yourself you nong.
explain please wrote:
Salazar said they were doing 10k training and trained through OXY HP. Salazar said Rupp could have run 10 seconds faster in his AR. There was a decent wind that night. So pretty much Rupp had a 26:34 in him, which is 13:17 pace, which is 2 seconds faster per 5k than he did in an all out one just a couple weeks prior.
Explain please
1) was there. I wouldn't call it a decent wind. Not Stanford still but pretty damn good
2) How can you explain it? Rupp's wife is pregnant with twins. Possibly bed-ridden. People were saying he may have been sleeping at the hospital.
The stress that would take on you would be unreal.
Plus Oxy was a tactical race where he didn't care about running fast. He ran fine until he didn't have the finish he wanted (but rarely has in the 5k anyway). As Pete Julian said to me when I asked him the exact question you are asking, Rupp just had a bad final 800. The rest of the race was fine.
-Rojo
PS. Everyone who thinks I have something against Nike, please take note.
Oone more thing. My brother's 10k pr was 2806.
His 5k pr was 13:54 from the same year.
That's not quite the same as Rupp as it's 1354 and then 1403 so (5k + 9) x 2 and they were a month apart.
Rupp was (5x + 3) x 2 and what 2 to 2.5 weeks.
But you get my point - the 10k and 5k are different beasts.
IT WAS FREAKING HOT AT OXY!!! Plus they didn't try to run a really fast time. Heat just kills you in distances longer than a mile, and it was in the 80s when they raced, it was in the 90s when the meet started
Those Ramzi Raisins do the trick. Lol
Daniel Komen got a warning for caffeine use. He never used
EPO though. He was a genetic beast freak with a lot of long
telomeres.
It's obvious Rupp was not trying to run fast at Oxy and just tried to sit and kick for the win to work on finishing speed. Salazar said as much before the race. He didn't ease down for the race and it was hot. In addition his wife was in hospital. Even taking all of that into account if the race was paced quicker from the start he still would probably have run under 13:10.
I don't understand why people are making a big deal of this. How many times do you see guys run slow tactical races then a few weeks later get in fast race and get close to a PR.
Flat Stanley wrote:
It's obvious Rupp was not trying to run fast at Oxy and just tried to sit and kick for the win to work on finishing speed. Salazar said as much before the race. He didn't ease down for the race and it was hot. In addition his wife was in hospital.
Already been said.
this doesn't even deserve a troll rating due to lack of effort. in the words of pretty boy floyd, "step ya game up!".
A better question is what would Rupp have run in the 10k had been run in Cali, in 83 degree heat, no rabbits, less Kenyans, and a first race in several months. I'd say 2750. In retrospect, 1319 was solid.
yyy wrote:
Daniel Komen got a warning for caffeine use. He never used
EPO though. He was a genetic beast freak with a lot of long
telomeres.
Puh leeeeez.
During the same era where you couldn't find a clean cyclist until back in 23rd place, you think someone ran 7:20 clean?
There's a reason the world records were set in that era, and haven't been encroached upon since.
EPO isn't something you do for a week and suddenly become superhuman on, guys. Blood infusions, sure.
vampgaze wrote:
uhh how about he was training through it? ever heard of dead legs? glycogen storage is important
Every heard of excuses? Did it occur to you that someone else might actually be better than your hero, Rupp? Every thought that fanboys making excuses for Rupp is why many people dislike him: people like you are not helping him by making excuses for him.