The longest it has stood for 60 years
Will it be beaten anytime soon or will it take another wonder drug
The longest it has stood for 60 years
Will it be beaten anytime soon or will it take another wonder drug
I think Gebremeskel might have a shot maybe
Farah has a great shot at this 12:37 record, despite his 12:53 pr, with last year's 3:28.81 and his earlier 26:46, which was not set up for a super fast time.
jjjjjjjjj wrote:
Farah has a great shot at this 12:37 record, despite his 12:53 pr, with last year's 3:28.81 and his earlier 26:46, which was not set up for a super fast time.
Lol keep dreaming
Farah has no shot
Where's all the new hailes and gebs
they should have inspired a whole new generation of super runners by now
they're not all running marathons
I do wonder if it's the drug testing that's put the brakes on them
runslow wrote:
jjjjjjjjj wrote:Farah has a great shot at this 12:37 record, despite his 12:53 pr, with last year's 3:28.81 and his earlier 26:46, which was not set up for a super fast time.
Lol keep dreaming
Yeah. Sorry repeated j, but while I think that Farrah's 5k PR is soft, he hasn't done anything to indicate he can break 12:45, let alone the WR. His 1500 (yes, I know I'm, in effect, drawing a pentagram on the ground and summoning Venotlin...) is only equivalent to about 12:45 and his 10k is about the same as a 12:53. The 5000 WR is still a long ong away.
Drug testing holding them back? Not this year. Look at women's mid-d. They all improved by at least 9 seconds.
The 5000 world record goes down in Shanghai in just over 2 days. You heard it here first. HG 12:36.
Mo Farah will def break this record Most likely at the end of this summer
Link wrote:
Yeah. Sorry repeated j, but while I think that Farrah's 5k PR is soft, he hasn't done anything to indicate he can break 12:45
no
he would have decimated that time last july
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&thread=5302291&id=5302709#5302709Renato Canova wrote:
Don't think the real value of Mo is 12'53". He ran already 12'57" in 2010, when we worked together for some month in Iten, in Zurich, and now is very much stronger, after going to Salazar. To think can run near 12'40" is something reasonable, such as the possibility of running under 26'30" in 10000m.
written after his 3'28
Link wrote:His 1500 (yes, I know I'm, in effect, drawing a pentagram on the ground and summoning Venotlin...) is only equivalent to about 12:45 and his 10k is about the same as a 12:53. The 5000 WR is still a long ong away.
on a purely mathematical basis, i get his 1500 as = to
7'23.2 , 12'43.6
however he brings more 1500 speed to the 5k than any career 5k guy ever has
you can knock big chunks off that 12'43.6 for potential
actually, his 3'28.81 shouda been more like 3'28.2 if he'd run the perfect race, which is more like 12'41.5 equivalent but same speed caveat above applies to that
ventolin^3 wrote:
Link wrote:His 1500 (yes, I know I'm, in effect, drawing a pentagram on the ground and summoning Venotlin...) is only equivalent to about 12:45 and his 10k is about the same as a 12:53. The 5000 WR is still a long ong away.on a purely mathematical basis, i get his 1500 as = to
7'23.2 , 12'43.6
however he brings more 1500 speed to the 5k than any career 5k guy ever has
you can knock big chunks off that 12'43.6 for potential
actually, his 3'28.81 shouda been more like 3'28.2 if he'd run the perfect race, which is more like 12'41.5 equivalent but same speed caveat above applies to that
1500 is his best race. He will not match that at 5000m, ever.
kennster on that day probably couda gone 12'34 at perfect even pace gun-to-tape as he did finish with a 57+ !
however, the best 5k shape ever seen was likely komen in a brief period in early '98 indoor season ( which i curse myself for not seeing on satellite as i didn't usually bother watching indoors unless big german meets or championships )
he jogged the 1st 3k outside geb's 12'59 wr but blasted the last 2k to smash wr down to 12'51
his 7'24i was even more astonishing
that brief few days, his likely outdoor shape was possibly
3'27+
7'17+
12'32/12'33
his outdoor shape in '98 was never this good despite 12'39wr
he'd left all his best form indoors in february
we have now got brief clip of Ryun's incredible dusseldorf run
the vids i want to see in full to retire happy are :
- Ryun dusseldorf full
- Ryun 3'33.1wr
- danny 12'51i wr
- danny 7'24i wr
Mr. Obvious wrote:1500 is his best race. He will not match that at 5000m, ever.
no
learn
he went to swiss altitude camp for coupla weeks prior to monaco
you go to altitude to develop endurance NOT speed
he ran that 1500 some time before moscow & he wouda only fine-tuned his speed just prior to wc
he ran that 1500 off likely just endurance
it's quite likely he wouda been in 3'27+ shape in wc in a perfect flat-out race
his best distance though is 3k
it's a toss-up which of 1500 or 5k is next best
ventolin^3 wrote:
Mr. Obvious wrote:1500 is his best race. He will not match that at 5000m, ever.no
learn
No
you learn, moron
He will never match these times: 7'23.2 , 12'43.6 which you state are equivalents to his 1500m time.
ventolin^3 wrote:
he ran that 1500 some time before moscow & he wouda only fine-tuned his speed just prior to wc
he ran that 1500 off likely just endurance
This is a complete load of BS. Salazar's whole group is known to practice and even focus on speed year-round. That's the complete opposite of running the 1500m off of just endurance or fine-tuning his speed just prior to WC.
He avoided the circuit all season because he was in speed shape not endurance shape. That likely explains his late season altitude trip. It was just an effort to maintain the endurance he had at that point.
Farah has never shown the ability to be a great time-trialer. He would need to get in a perfectly paced race and do the rest on his own. I don't see it ever happening.
Mr. Obvious wrote:No
you learn, moron
He will never match these times: 7'23.2 , 12'43.6 which you state are equivalents to his 1500m time.
moron
gebmesky ran 12'46 with a 54 finish running wide both bends
he wouda been at worst 12'40-flat shape off even-pace/route 1
mo whupped him in london when presumably geb was in peak shape
what does that tell your peabrain about mo's london shape ?
yeah right wrote:This is a complete load of BS. Salazar's whole group is known to practice and even focus on speed year-round. That's the complete opposite of running the 1500m off of just endurance or fine-tuning his speed just prior to WC.
He avoided the circuit all season because he was in speed shape not endurance shape. That likely explains his late season altitude trip. It was just an effort to maintain the endurance he had at that point.
err...
some "wonderful" analysis
thank your listing the slew of 3'29/3'30s prior to monaco he ran to show this emphasise on speed...
ventolin^3 wrote:
Mr. Obvious wrote:Noyou learn, moron
He will never match these times: 7'23.2 , 12'43.6 which you state are equivalents to his 1500m time.
moron
gebmesky ran 12'46 with a 54 finish running wide both bends
he wouda been at worst 12'40-flat shape off even-pace/route 1
mo whupped him in london when presumably geb was in peak shape
what does that tell your peabrain about mo's london shape ?
Imbecile
He will never match these times: 7'23.2 , 12'43.6 which you state are equivalents to his 1500m time.
ventolin^3 wrote:
moron
gebmesky ran 12'46 with a 54 finish running wide both bends
he wouda been at worst 12'40-flat shape off even-pace/route 1
mo whupped him in london when presumably geb was in peak shape
what does that tell your peabrain about mo's london shape ?
That tells us nothing about Mo's shape except that he has better speed or that Geb was having an off day. The pace was too slow to conclude that Mo was in better shape. But you know that. So why are you even suggesting that idea?