This is where the longitudinal study, aka "biological passport" comes in play. She might just always have had an elevated T/E ratio. Who knows?
Oh yeah, TONS of excess Testosterone in this one:http://www.atletiekweek.nl/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Adrienne-Herzog-bij-de-EK-cross-300x199.jpg
WADA will determine wrote:
This is where the longitudinal study, aka "biological passport" comes in play. She might just always have had an elevated T/E ratio. Who knows?
still hot
is she a NOPer?
Not a NOPer. Splits her training in Denver and Holland.
uceny makes me nervous - pictures like this. the supercut ones seem...
Brad Hudson has a very strict no drug policy so he quickly distanced himself and kicked herzog out when Herzog was caught last year
Herzog's boyfriend was on a bike and got killed by some idiot in Boulder when he was hit by a vehicle
Herzog is hot so she should get a pass
They say where there is smoke, there is fire, but for some reason I am not sure about this one. The degrees of separation from doping are so few that you almost have to conclude Adrienne is dirty, but there are a couple of thing about her that don't remind me of a doper.
rgy4 wrote:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2011/writers/tim_layden/08/31/Morgan-Uceny-track-and-field-worlds/Morgan-Uceny-1.jpguceny makes me nervous - pictures like this. the supercut ones seem...
Where is Uceny? She was on fire and then it seems like after that fall, she mentally never got up. Not following that closely so maybe I missed something?
No, In Holland she's not really welcome. The real T&F insiders know that she has been dirty several years now.
Is Hudson still coaching her? Does he need to cut ties with her again?
You've missed many things. Several good early-season results this year. Could be a good year for her.
Perspectivation wrote:
Where is Uceny? She was on fire and then it seems like after that fall, she mentally never got up. Not following that closely so maybe I missed something?
Since her early college days Uceny has had a lot of definition. (Didn't pay attention to her in high school.) That's not a statement about her present "cleanliness"--I don't know anything about her current status--just an observation that she's one of those folks who are likely to be cut, no matter what.
lease wrote:
Since her early college days Uceny has had a lot of definition. (Didn't pay attention to her in high school.) That's not a statement about her present "cleanliness"--I don't know anything about her current status--just an observation that she's one of those folks who are likely to be cut, no matter what.
I really hope Uceny is clean - and coach Mahon. Hall and Deena ran their best races (besides Hall's 2:04) under the direction of Mahon. I would like to think that group is clean.
Hudson dropped her last year when the allegations came up. She hasnt been back with the group since. She just doesnt update her website.
What would make you waffle on her? You must believe very few are dopers.
Give her a pass. Just back date the suspension like Tyson Gay.
HaHa - Hudson knew of the allegations long ago but did nothing until they came up again last fall and other athletes he coached demanded that he distance himself from her or they were leaving. He did so but it wasn't his idea and even had to have a few of his athletes at the meeting to back him up so he wouldn't wimp out.
Some in CO (Boulder area) has been coaching her since, rumors vary on who it is, some even speculating Hudson still is on the down low.
Then it should've been closed formally and professionally. Not left open for interpretation.
