Northport High School: 8:53, 8:54, 9:01 in the Same Race! @ Loucks

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  • google works well
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 1:58am CDT
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    Event 24 Men 3200 Meter Run
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    Meet Record: ! 8:56.02 2011 Chad Noelle, Greene, NY
    Name Year School Finals Points
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    Finals
    1 Curts, Dan 12 Ellsworth 8:51.24! 2 10
    2 Ostberg, Alex 11 Darien 8:52.64! 2 8
    3 Mcgowan, Tim 12 Northport 8:53.36! 2 6
    4 Brannigan, Mike 11 Northport 8:54.67! 2 4
    5 McGowan, Jack 12 Northport 9:01.98 2 2
    6 Udvadia, Ryan 12 Shoreham-Wr 9:04.97 2 1
    7 Salsbury, Jack 10 La Salle Academy 9:11.24 2
    8 Tucker, Patrick 11 St. Anthony's 9:12.88 2
    9 Lundy, Conor 10 Fordham Prep 9:15.14 2
    10 Bouthilette, Matt 10 La Salle Academy 9:15.54 2
    11 Principe Jr., David 09 La Salle Academy 9:15.87 2
    12 Garcia-Cassani, Isaac 12 Sachem North 9:21.45 1
    13 Buckley, Liam 12 Collegiate School 9:25.15 1
    14 Brassard, Jeremy 12 Coe-Brown 9:25.48 2
    15 Burks, Alex 12 Mamaroneck 9:25.86 1
    16 Watts, Mike 12 Islip 9:31.19 2
    17 Petrella, Ben 10 Liverpool 9:31.20 1
    18 Italiano, Tyler 11 Syosset 9:32.88 2
    19 Grundy, Jake 11 La Salle Academy 9:33.28 1
    20 Buck, Connor 11 Liverpool 9:35.92 1
    21 Shodai, Alex 11 Middletown 9:39.31 2
    22 Onken, John 11 Sachem North 9:39.89 1
    23 Acito, Jake 12 North Salem 9:43.32 1
    24 Chesterman, Kyle 12 Nanuet 9:48.21 1
    25 McCarthy, Dylan 11 Liverpool 9:51.10 1
    26 Depinto, Ryan 12 Syosset 9:52.67 1
    27 Cote, Chris 11 Waterville 9:56.57 1
    28 O'Day, Ryan 11 Rye Neck 9:58.94 1
    29 Forte, Steven 12 Mepham 10:02.07 1
  • HS Expert
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 2:01am CDT
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    Damn
  • Marcel Marseille
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 2:29am CDT
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    In most meets, La Salle Academy with 9:11, 2x9:15 and 9:33 would be noteworthy.

    Man times have changed since the '90's!
  • damn is right
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 4:36am CDT
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    Marcel Marseille wrote:

    In most meets, La Salle Academy with 9:11, 2x9:15 and 9:33 would be noteworthy.

    Man times have changed since the '90's!

    La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year.

    The 3 from Northport are a bit like the 3 from Kingwood in '93; talented twins + 1.
  • stillintheknow
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 4:49am CDT
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    But they are loser #2, loser #3, and loser #4.
  • Jerkstore, M.D.
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 6:09am CDT
    re: damn is right
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    damn is right wrote:


    La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year.

    No they don't. The team that had 2 athletes peform at a much higher level looks more impressive here. That team is Northport.
  • Jerkstore, M.D.
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 6:09am CDT
    re: Jerkstore, M.D.
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    That should say "3 athletes."
  • Impressed
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 7:01am CDT
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    >> 11 Principe Jr., David 09 La Salle Academy 9:15.87 2

    Will have to keep an eye on this kid.
  • damn is right
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 12:11pm CDT
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    Jerkstore, M.D. wrote:

    damn is right wrote:


    La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year.

    No they don't. The team that had 2 athletes peform at a much higher level looks more impressive here. That team is Northport.


    I understand what you are saying. From a coaching perspective, I see La Salle Academy as being more impressive because they are younger and don't have the advantage of twins. Talented twins help programs look better. There are a disproportionate amount of twins on XC teams ranked in the top 100.

    Even if you take out the 9:01, having an 8:53 and 8:54 runner is incredible, obviously. La Salle looks like they could have 3 under 9:00 next year who are not related to one another.
  • Diba-bay
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 12:43pm CDT
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    stillintheknow wrote:

    But they are loser #2, loser #3, and loser #4.

    And you're loser #1432597, what's your point
  • been around ya' know
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 12:54pm CDT
    re: damn is right
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    [quote]damn is right wrote:

    La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year./quote]

    Agreed. La Salle is the more compelling story here.
  • watchout
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    6 years ago 05/14/2014 3:15pm CDT
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    been around ya' know wrote:

    damn is right wrote:

    La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year.

    Agreed. La Salle is the more compelling story here.


    Gotta disagree.

    2 kids under 8:55 + another at 9:01 is much more impressive than 3 kids at 9:11-9:15 plus another at 9:33. One is rare, the other isn't.
  • damn is right
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 3:42pm CDT
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    watchout wrote:

    been around ya' know wrote:

    damn is right wrote:

    La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year.

    Agreed. La Salle is the more compelling story here.


    Gotta disagree.

    2 kids under 8:55 + another at 9:01 is much more impressive than 3 kids at 9:11-9:15 plus another at 9:33. One is rare, the other isn't.


    What's rare is to have 2 kids under 8:55 plus another at 9:01 and no relation between the 3.

    La Salle is the more compelling STORY because there is the "what-if" factor, which is a huge part of running. Their top 3 have a legitimate shot at all being under 9:00 next year and a fourth guy around 9:15. None of the four being twins, that is rare.
  • Twin Keys
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 3:49pm CDT
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    damn is right wrote:
    What's rare is to have 2 kids under 8:55 plus another at 9:01 and no relation between the 3.

    Hmmm, #3 and #5 have the same last name and they are not related?

    3 Mcgowan, Tim 12 Northport 8:53.36! 2 6
    5 McGowan, Jack 12 Northport 9:01.98 2 2
  • dsrunner
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    6 years ago 05/14/2014 4:41pm CDT
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    Many thousands more participating now. And much more emphasis on national level invitational meets.

    The real trend in HS 3000m/3200m/2mi is as follows:

    1964/ 1969 8:40 Lindgren (open competition) / 8:41 Prefontaine (solo)
    1974/1979 8:40 Virgin (solo) -> 8:36 Nelson (open competition)
    1980's 8:05 Trautman (regional HS meet)
    1990's Webb runs 3:53 but does not race 3000m (his performance equates to 7:45 3000m probably sub 8 capable in HS only race)
    2000's Ritz 2000 13:44 does not attempt 2mi record Rupp 8:03 (open competition) / Fernandez 7:59
    2010 Verbicas, Cheserek 8:30 2mi (national level competition)



    No high mega mileage runners on the list in 30 years
  • 2005
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 4:49pm CDT
    re: dsrunner
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    But do they have tschirhart's swaggar?
  • damn is right
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 8:19pm CDT
    re: Twin Keys
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    Twin Keys wrote:

    damn is right wrote:
    What's rare is to have 2 kids under 8:55 plus another at 9:01 and no relation between the 3.

    Hmmm, #3 and #5 have the same last name and they are not related?

    3 Mcgowan, Tim 12 Northport 8:53.36! 2 6
    5 McGowan, Jack 12 Northport 9:01.98 2 2


    That's why I'm saying La Salle is the bigger story. They are younger, unrelated, and have a shot at their top 3 all being under 9:00 next season.
  • lkjlkjl
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 9:04pm CDT
    re: Marcel Marseille
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    PEDs are a lot more available nowadays.
  • kmaclam
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    6 years ago 05/14/2014 9:18pm CDT
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    been around ya' know wrote:

    [quote]damn is right wrote:

    La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year./quote]

    Agreed. La Salle is the more compelling story here.
    NO, the more compelling, bigger story is the one that has actually taken place (fact) over the story that may one day be told (fiction). Besides, the 8:54 boy is the one whose life has been severely impacted by autism. You want a 'story'? There's your story!
  • damn is right
    6 years ago 05/14/2014 9:23pm CDT
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    kmaclam wrote:

    been around ya' know wrote:

    [quote]damn is right wrote:

    La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year./quote]

    Agreed. La Salle is the more compelling story here.
    NO, the more compelling, bigger story is the one that has actually taken place (fact) over the story that may one day be told (fiction). Besides, the 8:54 boy is the one whose life has been severely impacted by autism. You want a 'story'? There's your story!


    You make it sound like being autistic isn't an advantage in a sport like running. Mike's singular focus could take him very far in running.

    Again, Northport is really incredible. I just PERSONALLY find two sophormores and a freshman at 9:11, 9:15, and 9:15 to be more impressive than senior twins at 8:53, 9:01 and a junior at 8:54.