Northport High School: 8:53, 8:54, 9:01 in the Same Race! @ Loucks

In most meets, La Salle Academy with 9:11, 2x9:15 and 9:33 would be noteworthy.

Man times have changed since the '90's!

Marcel Marseille wrote:

In most meets, La Salle Academy with 9:11, 2x9:15 and 9:33 would be noteworthy.

Man times have changed since the '90's!

La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year.

The 3 from Northport are a bit like the 3 from Kingwood in '93; talented twins + 1.

But they are loser #2, loser #3, and loser #4.

damn is right wrote:

La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year.

No they don't. The team that had 2 athletes peform at a much higher level looks more impressive here. That team is Northport.

That should say "3 athletes."

>> 11 Principe Jr., David 09 La Salle Academy 9:15.87 2

Will have to keep an eye on this kid.

Jerkstore, M.D. wrote:

damn is right wrote:

La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year.

No they don't. The team that had 2 athletes peform at a much higher level looks more impressive here. That team is Northport.

I understand what you are saying. From a coaching perspective, I see La Salle Academy as being more impressive because they are younger and don't have the advantage of twins. Talented twins help programs look better. There are a disproportionate amount of twins on XC teams ranked in the top 100.

Even if you take out the 9:01, having an 8:53 and 8:54 runner is incredible, obviously. La Salle looks like they could have 3 under 9:00 next year who are not related to one another.

stillintheknow wrote:

But they are loser #2, loser #3, and loser #4.

And you're loser #1432597, what's your point

[quote]damn is right wrote:

La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year./quote]

Agreed. La Salle is the more compelling story here.

been around ya' know wrote:

damn is right wrote:

La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year.

Agreed. La Salle is the more compelling story here.

Gotta disagree.

2 kids under 8:55 + another at 9:01 is much more impressive than 3 kids at 9:11-9:15 plus another at 9:33. One is rare, the other isn't.

watchout wrote:

been around ya' know wrote:

Agreed. La Salle is the more compelling story here.

Gotta disagree.

2 kids under 8:55 + another at 9:01 is much more impressive than 3 kids at 9:11-9:15 plus another at 9:33. One is rare, the other isn't.

What's rare is to have 2 kids under 8:55 plus another at 9:01 and no relation between the 3.

La Salle is the more compelling STORY because there is the "what-if" factor, which is a huge part of running. Their top 3 have a legitimate shot at all being under 9:00 next year and a fourth guy around 9:15. None of the four being twins, that is rare.

damn is right wrote:

What's rare is to have 2 kids under 8:55 plus another at 9:01 and no relation between the 3.

Hmmm, #3 and #5 have the same last name and they are not related?

3 Mcgowan, Tim 12 Northport 8:53.36! 2 6

5 McGowan, Jack 12 Northport 9:01.98 2 2

Many thousands more participating now. And much more emphasis on national level invitational meets.

The real trend in HS 3000m/3200m/2mi is as follows:

1964/ 1969 8:40 Lindgren (open competition) / 8:41 Prefontaine (solo)

1974/1979 8:40 Virgin (solo) -> 8:36 Nelson (open competition)

1980's 8:05 Trautman (regional HS meet)

1990's Webb runs 3:53 but does not race 3000m (his performance equates to 7:45 3000m probably sub 8 capable in HS only race)

2000's Ritz 2000 13:44 does not attempt 2mi record Rupp 8:03 (open competition) / Fernandez 7:59

2010 Verbicas, Cheserek 8:30 2mi (national level competition)

No high mega mileage runners on the list in 30 years

But do they have tschirhart's swaggar?

Twin Keys wrote:

damn is right wrote:

What's rare is to have 2 kids under 8:55 plus another at 9:01 and no relation between the 3.

Hmmm, #3 and #5 have the same last name and they are not related?

3 Mcgowan, Tim 12 Northport 8:53.36! 2 6

5 McGowan, Jack 12 Northport 9:01.98 2 2

That's why I'm saying La Salle is the bigger story. They are younger, unrelated, and have a shot at their top 3 all being under 9:00 next season.

PEDs are a lot more available nowadays.

been around ya' know wrote:

[quote]damn is right wrote:

La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year./quote]

Agreed. La Salle is the more compelling story here.

NO, the more compelling, bigger story is the one that has actually taken place (fact) over the story that may one day be told (fiction). Besides, the 8:54 boy is the one whose life has been severely impacted by autism. You want a 'story'? There's your story!

kmaclam wrote:

been around ya' know wrote:

[quote]damn is right wrote:

La Salle Academy looks more impressive here considering they bring all 4 of those kids back next year./quote]

Agreed. La Salle is the more compelling story here.

NO, the more compelling, bigger story is the one that has actually taken place (fact) over the story that may one day be told (fiction). Besides, the 8:54 boy is the one whose life has been severely impacted by autism. You want a 'story'? There's your story!

You make it sound like being autistic isn't an advantage in a sport like running. Mike's singular focus could take him very far in running.

Again, Northport is really incredible. I just PERSONALLY find two sophormores and a freshman at 9:11, 9:15, and 9:15 to be more impressive than senior twins at 8:53, 9:01 and a junior at 8:54.