Runner girl knee pain

patellofemoral pain syndrome aka PFPS aka "runner's knee." Best treated with a combination of exercises for quad, hip abductor, and hip and external rotator strength. Also reduce running until pain improves, which it should after relative rest and hip and quad exercises every day.

Inside your kneecap, meaning right in the center under the kneecap? It makes a big difference if it's to the sides (meniscus, IT band, ligaments), top or bottom (tendons). Directly in the center, front or back (ligaments). These are generalizations. The sharpness should concern you. If it doesn't get better with some rest I'd see a doc and get an MRI.

Do you know how insanely hard it is to diagnose something over the internet or hell, even in person without imaging? I tore a meniscus and also had plica syndrome and when people asked why I wasn't running and I told them the specifics (before I knew the diagnosis) I had so many jackasses just be like, "ahhh, runner's knee huh?" when the symptoms didn't even line up with that. Your stupid mileage will suffer for a week, but take a full week off if it's a pain you can't run through, and if after a week off the pain is still present, go see a specialist.

Yeah, it's almost been a week. It's all around the knee pretty much, from the inside to the whole lower knee cap... I physically can't run 3 steps on it. It feels more like a sprain or strain than runners knee. Do y'all know anything about acupunctures?

Runnergirl345 wrote:

I physically can't run 3 steps on it. It feels more like a sprain or strain than runners knee. Do y'all know anything about acupunctures?

Sure, acupuncture is your best bet. I'm sure it'll clear right up with a few needle jabs.

Acupuncture is not the next step. Get an MRI. Don't strengthen while still in pain. That just reinflames you. Strengthen later. An orthopedist who runs can order and interpret the MRI. A podiatrist will try to sell you orthotics. In the meantime, you might roll out quad and IT band and see if that helps.

Thanks, I'll definitely try that. I have never had knee trouble in the past, and this came out of no where. I scheduled an acupuncture for today, I really don't know too much about it except for the fact that it works really well on dogs. haha. Do y'all think I should keep the appointment?

He moron, you don't just get an MRI at the drop of a hat. If everyone with a tendinitis who did this without going to see someone and trying conservative treatment, you could not get an MRI because they would be swamped. It sounds like jumper's knee (patellar tendinitis) PFPS usually won't hurt going town stairs. try some conservative tx before the MRI because chances are, you will need some treatment after anyway. People who cry MRI just need to shut up. That is not the way things work or even should work.

runner who professes wrote:

Acupuncture is not the next step. Get an MRI. Don't strengthen while still in pain. That just reinflames you. Strengthen later. An orthopedist who runs can order and interpret the MRI. A podiatrist will try to sell you orthotics. In the meantime, you might roll out quad and IT band and see if that helps.

You're right, it's very hard to get an MRI, it quite possibly could be jumpers knee, because I did some box jumps and the next day it started hurting and it hasn't really gotten any better.

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Just take another week off. It sounds like you are chomping at the bit to get back to running and rushing it. If you did strain or tweak a ligament in your knee, it's going to take more than a few days for the pain to subside. You said there is no swelling or noticeable popping, so I wouldn't worry. Time heals.

Find someone in your area to do Graston. In many cases, 2-4 treatments will clear up an acute injury.www.grastontechnique.com

Runnergirl345 wrote:

You're right, it's very hard to get an MRI, it quite possibly could be jumpers knee, because I did some box jumps and the next day it started hurting and it hasn't really gotten any better.

What exactly is graston? I have never heard of it.

Hey runnergirl, maybe if you were feeling burned out from running you could have had tight/tired muscles that couldn't support your knees as effectively, maybe you've just tweaked/strained things a bit with the movements that occur during rollerblading etc.

I had some similar knee pain not so long ago and it got better after some rest, easy relaxed running and strengthening exercises like squats (doing them with a swiss ball is good)and balance exercises and stretching.

I'm sure you'll be fine and back running in no time. Good luck!

get used to it. wrote:

It sounds like jumper's knee (patellar tendinitis) PFPS usually won't hurt going town stairs. try some conservative tx before the MRI because chances are, you will need some treatment after anyway. People who cry MRI just need to shut up. That is not the way things work or even should work

WTF? Pain going up/down stairs is one of the major signs of PFPS.

"Patients describe pain with stair climbing and especially going down the stairs."

Ho Hum wrote:

get used to it. wrote:

It sounds like jumper's knee (patellar tendinitis) PFPS usually won't hurt going town stairs. try some conservative tx before the MRI because chances are, you will need some treatment after anyway. People who cry MRI just need to shut up. That is not the way things work or even should work

WTF? Pain going up/down stairs is one of the major signs of PFPS.

http://www.hopkinsortho.org/patellofemoralpain.html

"Patients describe pain with stair climbing and especially going down the stairs."

Stop trying to diagnose the injury, and who cares what he says! It doesn't "sound" like PFPS or Runner's Knee, cause if you idiots knew anything about a knee, it's similar to the nerves in your teeth. Just because you're showing pain in the upper molars, doesn't mean there's an issue with your upper molars, it could be your lower canines. Knees doen't always show pain where the injury is or in the same manner. If she is actually concerned, she needs to go to a specialist. But if you're unwilling to rest(which is going to be the first thing the doc recommends) then I feel no sympathy. Call a doctor, make an appointment in a week. Rest for 6 days. Run the day before seeing the doctor. If there's still pain, you now can say you've rested 6 days (the correct amount of time for inflammation to reduce) and the pain is still there. If the pain is gone, you can make the judgement call on whether or not to cancel the appointment.

I'm going to schedule an appointment, it just doesn't feel right. It's a sharp pain to bend down or put any weight on it, and it's physically impossible to run on it. Should I rest from all cross training?