I say 2020 and I am never wrong.
Religious people are all obsessed about gays and finding Noah's ark, but they should really be concerned about what the emergence of strong artificial intelligence will mean to their faith.
They need to think about this shit...and so do you. You had better brace yourself.
Artificial intelligence is already here. LRC is run by a computer. The Brojos don't exist.
Sure, it's not really "strong" intelligence yet.
Lawnmower man wrote:
Artificial intelligence is already here. LRC is run by a computer. The Brojos don't exist.
Sure, it's not really "strong" intelligence yet.
Shit. That ain't even gastropod level intelligence.
Ray Kurzweil predicts that computers will pass the Turing Test by 2029. http://tinyurl.com/lov7fww
Just about everyone who has played video games can prove you wrong easily.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Just about everyone who has played video games can prove you wrong easily.
Explain.
It might never emerge.
oo?oo wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:Just about everyone who has played video games can prove you wrong easily.
Explain.
Video games are one of the most lucrative and obvious applications of AI, because the AI only has to manage a simulation, not the real world, and because there's a lot of money in the industry. But there is no serious gamer alive who can't easily figure out an AI's behavior patterns and brush it aside after a few attempts, despite its speed advantage. A bot may aim fast, but it's stupid.
There is also no way a bot could pass for a human in online multiplayer, no matter how many Turing tests it passed. The Turing test sets the bar way too low anyhow, as intelligence involves way more than just being able to act human.
download an AT-robot type game and try coding a few bots, and you'll find that the more complex you make an AI, the worse it performs. Which is, of course, contrary to the purpose of "intelligence," which should be able to make complex decisions. This means genuine AI is impossible. It's a misnomer.
Corporations effectively attained consciousness decades ago and now control the human race.
I wish that was 100% a joke. But unfortunately its not.
I'd be more concerned with where Facebook and others with similar tech take Oculus Rift.
I've heard 2029 as well and will defer to RK.
ryan foreman wrote:
Corporations effectively attained consciousness decades ago and now control the human race.
I wish that was 100% a joke. But unfortunately its not.
"it's"
Bad Wigins wrote:
oo?oo wrote:Explain.
Video games are one of the most lucrative and obvious applications of AI, because the AI only has to manage a simulation, not the real world, and because there's a lot of money in the industry. But there is no serious gamer alive who can't easily figure out an AI's behavior patterns and brush it aside after a few attempts, despite its speed advantage. A bot may aim fast, but it's stupid.
There is also no way a bot could pass for a human in online multiplayer, no matter how many Turing tests it passed. The Turing test sets the bar way too low anyhow, as intelligence involves way more than just being able to act human.
download an AT-robot type game and try coding a few bots, and you'll find that the more complex you make an AI, the worse it performs. Which is, of course, contrary to the purpose of "intelligence," which should be able to make complex decisions. This means genuine AI is impossible. It's a misnomer.
I don't think game developers are collaborating with neuroscientists to model how the human brain learns.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I'll bump this thread in 2020 (under the shaky assumption that letsrun will still be around)and one of us will be right and one of us will be wrong.
The hurdle of Strong AI was cleared ages ago by military labs and industries. Hayabusa is a prime exmaple.
Old News wrote:
The hurdle of Strong AI was cleared ages ago by military labs and industries. Hayabusa is a prime exmaple.
Ummm...no.
It depends what you mean by artificial intelligence. "Artifice" means fiction. There's plenty of pretend-intelligence being generated by silicon chips right now. My Lexus talks to me and my 8-year-old son thinks it's completely natural that cars talk to you and tell you how to get home.
Then again, he knows, intuitively, that cars aren't like Daddy. Daddy can instantly and effectively modulate the tone of his voice in a way that compels attention. AI, in cars, doesn't yet do that. (I'm sure, though, that Ray Kurzweil has his pad wired so that his faux dominatrix gives him shivers down to is root chakra. Good for him. L'chaim.)
Until a computer can, of its own volition, lead a flesh-envelope to take the same run that Smith takes in "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner" and make the same decision to f--k the borstal's Director in the final few hundred yards, it won't get my vote.
Don't even pretend, AI. You can't do it. That why they call you ARTIFICIAL intelligence and VIRTUAL reality.
Because real intelligence and...reality are where the human lives.
F-uck you, AI.
It was a human, BTW, who just figured out that f-uck will make it through this website's filter.
KudzuRunner wrote:
Because real intelligence and...reality are where the human lives.
Humans are just complex biological machines that have evolved with the purpose of replicating the DNA within its cells.
There is nothing supernatural about us. New intelligent life can emerge from computer programming that will be just as real and conscious as humans.
ryan foreman wrote:
Corporations effectively attained consciousness decades ago and now control the human race.
I wish that was 100% a joke. But unfortunately its not.
That's not artificial intelligence though, because corporations are people.
No bigee. Stong Artificial Intelligence is already common in undisclosed particle beam weapons and satellites.
Singularity is drunken dorm room talk. You can learn how it will all end by watching Terminator. One day Ahhnuld will come back from the future to assasinate Sergey Brin and Larry Page. Singularity fixed.The machines won't take over.
Seriously, at every stage during the march towards tech singulaity all that has resulted is a decrease in prodtivity and an explosion of devices of leasure. Apple went from the largest computer manufacture of the world to the largest toy manufacture of the world. The potential of the internet went from a conduit of ideas, knowledge and freedom to a smorgasbord of porn and selfies. The invention of the smartphone didnt add value to our lives, it became a tether to our addictions.
If you think the smartphone has sucked out all of our time and productivity, wait until 2030 when the wave of Indian Love Potion Silicone Concubines hit the market after singularity comes to fruitation(sic).