I read on a thread here that most steeplers run the 3000 SC at around their 10,000 pace, or maybe a bit faster.
I recently did just my second steeplechase, and the pace was faster than my 5000 race pace.
Do I have unusual talent in the event? I am definitely more naturally athletic than most of the runners I know.
Sounds slow to me.
No you just suck at the 5k
The 3000 meter steeple should be around your 2 mile pace
So you ran an 11:00 steeplechase which equaled your 18 minute 5k pace. congrates, you are very talented at steeple!
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Yeah these guys aren't trolling. You need to race another 5k
Steeplechase 1234 wrote:
The 3000 meter steeple should be around your 2 mile pace
That just makes no sense.
I have read that 10,000 is very close for most solid steeplers. This is close, but 8:00 is 26:40/13:20 pace so most steeplers like Jager are probably running it at faster pace for the steeple than they could for 10k, but slower than they could for 5k.
I actually run FASTER pace for the 3000 meter steeplechase than I do for 5k, and I have run many 5ks, so I am probbably a relatively good steeplechase runner because of my athleticism.
emerging steeple god? wrote:
Steeplechase 1234 wrote:The 3000 meter steeple should be around your 2 mile pace
That just makes no sense.
I have read that 10,000 is very close for most solid steeplers. This is close, but 8:00 is 26:40/13:20 pace so most steeplers like Jager are probably running it at faster pace for the steeple than they could for 10k, but slower than they could for 5k.
I actually run FASTER pace for the 3000 meter steeplechase than I do for 5k, and I have run many 5ks, so I am probbably a relatively good steeplechase runner because of my athleticism.
He's saying a 3000m steeplechase time = a 2-mile time for a good steepler (or 3200 time for the best). Your 3k flat/steeple differential would be the thing to look at not 5k/10k pace
10^13 dollars wrote:
emerging steeple god? wrote:That just makes no sense.
I have read that 10,000 is very close for most solid steeplers. This is close, but 8:00 is 26:40/13:20 pace so most steeplers like Jager are probably running it at faster pace for the steeple than they could for 10k, but slower than they could for 5k.
I actually run FASTER pace for the 3000 meter steeplechase than I do for 5k, and I have run many 5ks, so I am probbably a relatively good steeplechase runner because of my athleticism.
He's saying a 3000m steeplechase time = a 2-mile time for a good steepler (or 3200 time for the best). Your 3k flat/steeple differential would be the thing to look at not 5k/10k pace
Us it 2-mile or 3200? There IS a difference because one is metric and the other is not.
10^13 dollars wrote:
emerging steeple god? wrote:That just makes no sense.
He's saying a 3000m steeplechase time = a 2-mile time for a good steepler (or 3200 time for the best).
I see. So he means 3000 SC should be equal to 3200 in TIME, not PACE.
My 3000 SC is faster than my 3200, which makes sense since I seem to lost very little energy jumping over the barriers and water jump.
emerging steeple god? wrote:
which makes sense since I seem to lost very little energy jumping over the barriers and water jump.
You've mentioned how awesome you are at the barriers three times now. But if we're talking 11 minute steeple and 18 minute 5k pace then it's hard to say you're an "emerging steeple god"...
Arabian Horse wrote:
emerging steeple god? wrote:which makes sense since I seem to lost very little energy jumping over the barriers and water jump.
You've mentioned how awesome you are at the barriers three times now. But if we're talking 11 minute steeple and 18 minute 5k pace then it's hard to say you're an "emerging steeple god"...
I mention that because it seems like the barriers are important to the steeplechase.
I read in an article on letsrun that every barrier is like running up a flight of stairs. Not for me, though! I actually find them refreshing.
I am much faster than that pace btw. And I said emerging steeple god? with a question mark because I want to know what people think. Does anyone else run the 3000 steeplechase faster than their 5k pace? Are you really athletic as well as fast? Or just me?
Every barrier is like running up a flight of stairs? What the hell? No, no one has ever thought that. You're not that special, kid, work on trying to get good at the actual running part and then you won't need to talk about your supposed athleticism because you'll be actually good at the event itself.
Arabian Horse wrote:
Every barrier is like running up a flight of stairs? What the hell? No, no one has ever thought that. You're not that special, kid, work on trying to get good at the actual running part and then you won't need to talk about your supposed athleticism because you'll be actually good at the event itself.
Actually the letsrun coach John Kellog said that so don't get mad at me for quoting him!
I am a good runner as well as a good jumper so there is no need to be angry or mean about my running.
Are you mad? I am sorry if I offended you with my confidence but I really do think my barrier ability is unusual and want to make the most of this discovery. It isn't like I don't run too.
emerging steeple god? wrote:
Arabian Horse wrote:Every barrier is like running up a flight of stairs? What the hell? No, no one has ever thought that. You're not that special, kid, work on trying to get good at the actual running part and then you won't need to talk about your supposed athleticism because you'll be actually good at the event itself.
Actually the letsrun coach John Kellog said that so don't get mad at me for quoting him!
I am a good runner as well as a good jumper so there is no need to be angry or mean about my running.
Are you mad? I am sorry if I offended you with my confidence but I really do think my barrier ability is unusual and want to make the most of this discovery. It isn't like I don't run too.
Just tell us the difference between your 3k (estimated if you don't run it) and steeple times. That is all we need to know.
Didn't know JK said that
If you think your steeple ability is so great then post your PRs for all your events.
8 out of 10 barriers
brogan1 wrote:
If you think your steeple ability is so great then post your PRs for all your events.
What does that have to do with my steeple awesomeness?