PS. Here is the elevation chart:
The course is far from pancake flat and has a DH first mile:
http://www.schneiderelectricparismarathon.com/marathon/2010/images/profil_marathon.jpg
PPS. FYI, the first post in a thread can only have two links or the spam bots stop it.
I'll be here, rojo.
Having run it before, I can tell you that it is NOT a fast course. Very hilly and many turns.
My prediction for Bekele is 2:08:09
rojo wrote:
But what's a great time for a debut?
Here is part of a chart I once made of all marathon debuts of runners with sub-27:00 track PRs from fast, legal courses only... didn't include a couple Boston/NYC ones because I was using it to calculate averages.
Name 10,000m Marathon Debut Ratio
Eliud Kipchoge 26:49 2:05:37 4.68
Mark Kiptoo 26:54 2:06:16 4.69
Haile Gebrselassie 26:22 2:06:35 4.80
Sammy Wanjiru 26:41 2:06:39 4.75
Richard Limo 26:50 2:06:45 4.72
Micah Kogo 26:35 2:06:56 4.77
Bernard Kipyego 26:59 2:07:01 4.71
Paul Koech 26:36 2:07:07 4.78
Martin Mathathi 26:59 2:07:16 4.72
Josphat Muchiri 26:57 2:07:36 4.73
Nicholas Kemboi 26:30 2:08:01 4.83
Paul Tergat 26:25 2:08:15 4.85
Albert Chepkurui 26:50 2:08:36 4.79
Abdullah Ahmad Hassan 26:38 2:08:36 4.83
Josphat Menjo 26:56 2:09:34 4.81
Moses Masai 26:50 2:11:00 4.88
Charles Kamathi 26:50 2:11:25 4.90
Zersenay Tadese 26:37 2:12:03 4.96
Salah Hissou 26:38 2:12:45 4.98
Kenneth Kipkemoi 26:52 2:17:41 5.12
Assefa Mezegebu 26:49 2:25:24 5.42
Half under 2:08, about a third 2:07 or under.
I would stay up and watch but I don't have universal sports and I can't even buy it because comcast doesn't offer it.
still waiting wrote:
I would stay up and watch but I don't have universal sports and I can't even buy it because comcast doesn't offer it.
I don't have access either as it's not offered on xfinity and they are an ad partner of ours. I'm hoping some European site has it though.
More useful info, stats and streaming info can be found here:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/04/results-2014-paris-marathon/It is interesting MAYEROFF that you call 2:08:09. With a windy environment and a not flat course, he could end up 2:08:09. See he has stated that he want's the course record, so 2:05 is his aim. If the wind is indeed an issue, he could blow up to a 2:08:09. I could go with that. Plus it is his first.
However, I am going to stick my neck out and say he runs 2:05 (with the usual caveat that the weather doesn't go completely sideways)...I suggest this as he probably has more than one pacer? The head wind area - the first one is at 8.5 miles? That is early enough in the race that one pacer can sacrifice himself.
And what will be interesting....
Let's just say he has an amazing day - I know he is not going for it yet - but let's just say he has an amazing day and runs 2:03:22 or better....I know it is very unlikely to happen....
But London next week with its stacked field could yield a 2:02:xx...if Bekele runs a 2:03-low.
2:03:02 has been done in Boston!!!
MAYEROFF wrote:
Having run it before, I can tell you that it is NOT a fast course. Very hilly and many turns.
My prediction for Bekele is 2:08:09
Dude, this is Kenny we talk bout, 2:06:30ish
Kilobits 2:05:30
baby boy wrote:
Kilobits 2:05:30
I meant kipchoge
Streaming link on the french TV (in french of course):
Any stream that is in English?
Kogo debuted at 2:10:27 for second at boston
baby boy wrote:
baby boy wrote:Kilobits 2:05:30
I meant kipchoge
You're right. I think I entered one of Moses Mosop's times or something.
I never had Universal Sports but hey, somehow my system added it recently. Gee, since I'm awake, I guess I need to watch this thing. Go Kenny B!
baby boy wrote:
Kogo debuted at 2:10:27 for second at boston
Didn't know that either, I thought I completely threw out anyone who started at Boston. Maybe I entered a couple second race times if they ran Boston first. That would explain how Moses Mosop's 2:05:37 was in there before I copied it.
HardLoper wrote:
baby boy wrote:Kogo debuted at 2:10:27 for second at boston
Didn't know that either, I thought I completely threw out anyone who started at Boston. Maybe I entered a couple second race times if they ran Boston first. That would explain how Moses Mosop's 2:05:37 was in there before I copied it.
Mosop's debut was 2:03:02 in Boston also
baby boy wrote:
Mosop's debut was 2:03:02 in Boston also
I know, that's why I said it explains why his 2:05:37 non-debut got in there
