Only Michael Johnson is faster: Baylor frosh Trayvon Bromell runs windy 20.23

LetsRun.com wrote:

http://www.kwtx.com/sports/headlines/Baylor-Track--Field-Wins-8-Events-At-TCU-Invitational-251631321.html?ref=321

"Freshman Trayvon Bromell headlined the day by turning in a time of 20.23 to win the 200-meter dash. That is the sixth-fastest time in Baylor history at that distance with all five faster times belonging to former world-record holder Michael Johnson."

I remember watching a young chap, maybe 17 at the time, yes, still in high school, and this was about 25 years ago sprint halfway around the track. His time, a FAT, was faster than the chap you mention. I think they gave him a 20.0

Pipi longstripping wrote:

LetsRun.com wrote:http://www.kwtx.com/sports/headlines/Baylor-Track--Field-Wins-8-Events-At-TCU-Invitational-251631321.html?ref=321

"Freshman Trayvon Bromell headlined the day by turning in a time of 20.23 to win the 200-meter dash. That is the sixth-fastest time in Baylor history at that distance with all five faster times belonging to former world-record holder Michael Johnson."

I remember watching a young chap, maybe 17 at the time, yes, still in high school, and this was about 25 years ago sprint halfway around the track. His time, a FAT, was faster than the chap you mention. I think they gave him a 20.0

Maybe closer to 30 years ago.

238 20.00 ±0.0 Valeriy Borzov UKR 20.10.49 1 München 04.09.1972

238 20.00 +1.9 Robson Caetano da Silva BRA 04.09.64 1 Barcelona 10.09.1989

238 20.00 +1.0 Ato Boldon TTO 30.12.73 1 Westwood 19.05.1996

238 20.00 +1.2 Claudinei Quirino da Silva BRA 19.11.70 2 Sevilla 27.08.1999

238 20.00 +0.1 Shawn Crawford USA 14.01.78 1s2 Sacramento 17.07.2004

238 20.00 +0.4 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 1 Monterrey 11.06.2005

238 20.00 -0.4 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1s2 Osaka 29.08.2007

238 20.00 -0.3 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1 Shanghai 28.09.2007

238 20.00 +1.2 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1 Kingston 03.05.2008

238 20.00 +1.3 Alonso Edward PAN 08.12.89 1r2 Rethimnó 20.07.2009

238 20.00 +0.4 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1 London 25.07.2009

238 20.00 +0.4 Churandy Martina NED 03.07.84 5 London 09.08.2012

238 20.00 +1.4 Jason Young JAM 21.03.91 4rA Lausanne 23.08.2012

238 20.00 -0.3 Nickel Ashmeade JAM 07.04.90 1 Kingston 04.05.2013

238 20.00 -0.3 Nickel Ashmeade JAM 07.04.90 2s3 Moskva 16.08.2013

No 17 year olds are listed on

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_200ok.htm

as running 20.00 in fact

Usain Bolt was the only IAAF Junior-U20 to go under 20.01 and his times were 19.93 and 19.99

list of 20 Flat FATs wrote:

238 20.00 ±0.0 Valeriy Borzov UKR 20.10.49 1 München 04.09.1972

238 20.00 +1.9 Robson Caetano da Silva BRA 04.09.64 1 Barcelona 10.09.1989

238 20.00 +1.0 Ato Boldon TTO 30.12.73 1 Westwood 19.05.1996

238 20.00 +1.2 Claudinei Quirino da Silva BRA 19.11.70 2 Sevilla 27.08.1999

238 20.00 +0.1 Shawn Crawford USA 14.01.78 1s2 Sacramento 17.07.2004

238 20.00 +0.4 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 1 Monterrey 11.06.2005

238 20.00 -0.4 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1s2 Osaka 29.08.2007

238 20.00 -0.3 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1 Shanghai 28.09.2007

238 20.00 +1.2 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1 Kingston 03.05.2008

238 20.00 +1.3 Alonso Edward PAN 08.12.89 1r2 Rethimnó 20.07.2009

238 20.00 +0.4 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1 London 25.07.2009

238 20.00 +0.4 Churandy Martina NED 03.07.84 5 London 09.08.2012

238 20.00 +1.4 Jason Young JAM 21.03.91 4rA Lausanne 23.08.2012

238 20.00 -0.3 Nickel Ashmeade JAM 07.04.90 1 Kingston 04.05.2013

238 20.00 -0.3 Nickel Ashmeade JAM 07.04.90 2s3 Moskva 16.08.2013

No 17 year olds are listed on

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_200ok.htm

as running 20.00 in fact

Usain Bolt was the only IAAF Junior-U20 to go under 20.01 and his times were 19.93 and 19.99

He was perhaps 18 - i think he originally given 20.0 but later given 20.13- Roy Martin - - his was the third consecutive national 200 record set that weekend in Austin. I think Kerr was another. Still standing.

Wind Gauge reading was 3.3 m/s. The corrected time is about 20.55.

Not what was claimed. An honest 20.23 would have been #9 on the Wold Junior all-time list.

coach d wrote:

Wind Gauge reading was 3.3 m/s. The corrected time is about 20.55.

Not what was claimed. An honest 20.23 would have been #9 on the Wold Junior all-time list.

His 20.13 is listed as National prep record. FAT and legal.

Pippi wrote:

coach d wrote:

Wind Gauge reading was 3.3 m/s. The corrected time is about 20.55.

Not what was claimed. An honest 20.23 would have been #9 on the Wold Junior all-time list.

His 20.13 is listed as National prep record. FAT and legal.

BS. The official high school record for 200 meters is 20.13, but it was set by Roy Martin 20 years ago, and Baylor is not claiming different. Bromwell is listed by T&FN as the high school leader for 2013 in the 100 at 10.27, but never ran anywhere near 20.13 legal, and he didn't do it today.

Pippi wrote:

coach d wrote:

Wind Gauge reading was 3.3 m/s. The corrected time is about 20.55.

Not what was claimed. An honest 20.23 would have been #9 on the Wold Junior all-time list.

His 20.13 is listed as National prep record. FAT and legal.

First 20.0 then 20.13 quit the BS while you are ahead

coach d wrote:

Pippi wrote:

His 20.13 is listed as National prep record. FAT and legal.

BS. The official high school record for 200 meters is 20.13, but it was set by Roy Martin 20 years ago, and Baylor is not claiming different. Bromwell is listed by T&FN as the high school leader for 2013 in the 100 at 10.27, but never ran anywhere near 20.13 legal, and he didn't do it today.

I said Roy Martin asshool - it was originally listed as 20.0 and later 20.13

Pipi longstripping wrote:

[quote]LetsRun.com wrote:

http://www.kwtx.com/sports/headlines/Baylor-Track--Field-Wins-8-Events-At-TCU-Invitational-251631321.html?ref=321

"Freshman Trayvon Bromell headlined the day by turning in a time of 20.23 to win the 200-meter dash. That is the sixth-fastest time in Baylor history at that distance with all five faster times belonging to former world-record holder Michael Johnson."

Note the phrase "in Baylor history."

Baylor history.

Any discussion of anything other than 200m performances in the history of Baylor University track is irrelevant to the point made in the OP.

Class dismissed.

coach d wrote:

Wind Gauge reading was 3.3 m/s. The corrected time is about 20.55.

Not what was claimed. An honest 20.23 would have been #9 on the Wold Junior all-time list.

It was an honest time. Just too much wind. This should show how hard it is to run a fast 200m.

This bodes well for Eugene. Between Kiryu, Bromell and some of the Caribbean sprinters like Zharnell Hughes, Michael O'Hara and Jonathan Farinha, the World Junior sprints are going to be on another level this year. Given the right conditions, we may see a few sub-10's.

Pipi longstripping wrote:

Pipi longstripping wrote:

I remember watching a young chap, maybe 17 at the time, yes, still in high school, and this was about 25 years ago sprint halfway around the track. His time, a FAT, was faster than the chap you mention. I think they gave him a 20.0

Maybe closer to 30 years ago.

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Pippi

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list of 20 Flat FATs wrote:

238 20.00 ±0.0 Valeriy Borzov UKR 20.10.49 1 München 04.09.1972

238 20.00 +1.9 Robson Caetano da Silva BRA 04.09.64 1 Barcelona 10.09.1989

238 20.00 +1.0 Ato Boldon TTO 30.12.73 1 Westwood 19.05.1996

238 20.00 +1.2 Claudinei Quirino da Silva BRA 19.11.70 2 Sevilla 27.08.1999

238 20.00 +0.1 Shawn Crawford USA 14.01.78 1s2 Sacramento 17.07.2004

238 20.00 +0.4 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 1 Monterrey 11.06.2005

238 20.00 -0.4 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1s2 Osaka 29.08.2007

238 20.00 -0.3 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1 Shanghai 28.09.2007

238 20.00 +1.2 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1 Kingston 03.05.2008

238 20.00 +1.3 Alonso Edward PAN 08.12.89 1r2 Rethimnó 20.07.2009

238 20.00 +0.4 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1 London 25.07.2009

238 20.00 +0.4 Churandy Martina NED 03.07.84 5 London 09.08.2012

238 20.00 +1.4 Jason Young JAM 21.03.91 4rA Lausanne 23.08.2012

238 20.00 -0.3 Nickel Ashmeade JAM 07.04.90 1 Kingston 04.05.2013

238 20.00 -0.3 Nickel Ashmeade JAM 07.04.90 2s3 Moskva 16.08.2013

No 17 year olds are listed on

as running 20.00 in fact

Usain Bolt was the only IAAF Junior-U20 to go under 20.01 and his times were 19.93 and 19.99

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He was perhaps 18 - i think he originally given 20.0 but later given 20.13- Roy Martin - - his was the third consecutive national 200 record set that weekend in Austin. I think Kerr was another. Still standing.

Dear SAT flunkers- nope

NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ROY MARTIN

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to many pippis peapeaing in the pot.

Martin was given a 20.0 because for some odd reason the Texas State Meet back in those days used hand timed as their results. They had a FAT timer there and Martin finished in 20.13. He later equaled that mark running 20.13 again to finish second at the US TAC Champoionships. Amazing he still has the record after nearly 30 years.

No one else set the National Record in the days prior to Martin. Joe Deloach posted a 20.44 at his state meet the night before if my memory serves me correct.