My 45 year old friend claims that if he breaks a 5:00 mile this makes him the 15th fastest miler ages 45-59 is this true

In the world, no way! In america, maybe

Those lists look to be the product of some SERIOUS under-reporting.

Er... wrote:

Those lists look to be the product of some SERIOUS under-reporting.

I doubt that is correct. My Dad ran a 4:51.2 on the track back in 1982 at age 48.

Nothing was ever thought about it being a record but now I am interested to know where that stands.

Dude, John Trautmann Just ran 4:17 at 46..i doubt sub 5:00 is in the top 15

I'll name you five 45+ year old runners that can run a sub 5 min mile from a small town in upstate NY. There is no way that your 45 year old friend is right.

I'll name you a 60 yr old guy that could do that.

Here are the results from just one race in the 45-49 and 50-54 - the 2013 5th ave mile:

45 - 49

1 Gerald O'Hara 49 CPTC NY 04:34

2 Gladstone Jones 49 UATH NY 04:39

3 Paul Thompson 47 WS United K 04:45

4 Jeff Conston 45 MHUD NY 04:48

5 Gianni Bruzzi 46 04:48

6 Jonathan Schindel 48 UATH NY 04:55

7 Mara Shaun 47 SRS NY 04:58

8 Michael Essig 47 NBR NY 05:01

9 Danny Tateo 48 WS NY 05:02

10 Shigenari Oketani 45 GNY Japan 05:05

50 - 54

1 Alan Wells 50 NY 04:33

2 Conor O'Driscoll 52 WTC NY 04:43

3 Mark Wyckoff 51 OH 04:48

4 Peter Kashulines 50 NJ 04:49

5 William Zink 53 NJM NJ 04:50

6 Joseph Koelbel 50 SBRC NY 04:56

7 martin fitzgerald 50 TRR NY 04:56

8 Kevin Shelton-Smith 53 VCTC United K 04:57

9 Jonathan Kline 53 DWRT NY 05:00

10 Patrick Duffy 52 NYF NY 05:00

http://web2.nyrrc.org/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/52112.1.236409323354508879

PS interesting to note that that there is no slowage in teh 50-54 compared to the 45-49

No way

M 60 1500m 4:24.00 Nolan Shaheed USA 61 30.04.11 Norwalk

Does he wear these http://amzn.to/1aGL2VN on account of being so old it doesn't matter?

There are some guys (Magill, Wade, etc.) in that age group who can run 3 consecutive sub-5:00 miles.

The level of competition really drops off at 45. Plus fewer are interested in competing at the mile or 1500. A runner like Shaheed is an extreme example of a 60 yr old runner in the US.

These guys can run 3 consecutive miles below 5 min pace. Top times ever run in the world by 45-49. So assuming there are many more that can run a mile under 5 at that age

http://www.arrs.net/Veterans/VR2_R5K.htm

5 is more like WR 10k pace at that age

John Clendon wrote:

I'll name you five 45+ year old runners that can run a sub 5 min mile from a small town in upstate NY. There is no way that your 45 year old friend is right.

I'll name you a 60 yr old guy that could do that.

Please do. Names, birthdates / ages, and results would be useful.

Er... wrote:

Those lists look to be the product of some SERIOUS under-reporting.

It only includes times uploaded by race directors or submitted by the runners themselves. Most race directors do not upload them.

If I'm a top AG 100m sprinter in the US, there's something seriously wrong with American masters running.

15:37 for 5,000m is about 5:00 a mile pace

Well considering there are 40 yr old guys breaking 4 minutes in the mile, I doubt a sub 5 would be top 15 for 45-59 yr olds, but a sub 5 would still be very impressive and I don't think you should crush his dreams.