el rio wrote:
What's most amazing to me about the poll, and the one number that actually means anything, is how FEW people actually voted. That speaks volumes.
el rio wrote:
What's most amazing to me about the poll, and the one number that actually means anything, is how FEW people actually voted. That speaks volumes.
not really wrote:
On the other hand, the people who did take the time to vote are exceedingly cynical and/or trolling.
The very best percentage went to Molly Huddle, and she still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
not really wrote:
On the other hand, the people who did take the time to vote are exceedingly cynical and/or trolling.
The very best percentage went to Molly Huddle, and she still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
DaveyGuy wrote:
not really wrote:
On the other hand, the people who did take the time to vote are exceedingly cynical and/or trolling.
The very best percentage went to Molly Huddle, and she still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
Ajee Wilson 12.7
Mary Cain 16.9
Wossamotta wrote:
You think this is a proud moment for Letsrun. It's very very much the opposite.
Riverdale Runner wrote:
25% of voters think Mary Decker Slaney was clean,
DaveyGuy wrote:
not really wrote:
The very best percentage went to Molly Huddle, and she still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
Ajee Wilson 12.7
Mary Cain 16.9
Molly Huddle ... still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
14% of the voters think that Joan Benoit was dirty? That is absolutely ridiculous.
Ajee Wilson 12.7
Mary Cain 16.9
Sweet Nell Fenwick wrote:
Molly Huddle ... still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
14% of the voters think that Joan Benoit was dirty? That is absolutely ridiculous.
Ajee Wilson 12.7
Mary Cain 16.9
Nothing whatsoever is ridiculous about thinking these people might be (or were) doping. I've known masters runners at the 16:00-plus 5k level who were/are on growth hormone, college runners - not at the national level, mind you, but the conference scorer level - who were on the juice, even high schoolers who admitted to use of cheap PEDs. How about those two Cat 3 cyclists who were popped for EPO a couple of years ago? They were nowhere near the pro level - just state-class amateurs presumably doing it for the fun of competition and personal improvement and without fame, money or endorsements to gain if they win. And we're somehow supposed to think professionals are cleaner as a whole?
Anyone - at any level or at any age or from any land - is capable of cheating. What's "ridiculous" is the notion that people can't possibly be putting drugs into their bodies (or being doped without their knowledge) until they're X years old or until they're making Y salary from their athletic exploits or unless they (or their associates) exhibit Z "sleaze factor."
Get this straight: Track and Field is dirty. Real dirty. And drugs aren't confined to the elite level, although the elite level is particularly dirty.
david siegel wrote:
I do believe that all three (Huddle, Wilson and Cain) are most likely somehow dirty. ... I don't think this is an overly cynical argument...
