On the other hand, the people who did take the time to vote are exceedingly cynical and/or trolling.
el rio wrote:
What's most amazing to me about the poll, and the one number that actually means anything, is how FEW people actually voted. That speaks volumes.
el rio wrote:
What's most amazing to me about the poll, and the one number that actually means anything, is how FEW people actually voted. That speaks volumes.
P.S... Having over 5100 people voting is a relatively healthy number. How many were you expecting?
not really wrote:
On the other hand, the people who did take the time to vote are exceedingly cynical and/or trolling.
The very best percentage went to Molly Huddle, and she still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
Ajee Wilson 12.7
not really wrote:
On the other hand, the people who did take the time to vote are exceedingly cynical and/or trolling.
The very best percentage went to Molly Huddle, and she still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
Cain is coached by Sleazy Sal who also coached doper Slaney
DaveyGuy wrote:not really wrote:Ajee Wilson 12.7
On the other hand, the people who did take the time to vote are exceedingly cynical and/or trolling.
The very best percentage went to Molly Huddle, and she still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
Mary Cain 16.9
Couldn't agree more, their attempts to justify these polls is just sad.
Wossamotta wrote:
You think this is a proud moment for Letsrun. It's very very much the opposite.
She was exonerated by USATF.
Riverdale Runner wrote:
25% of voters think Mary Decker Slaney was clean,
I do believe that all three are most likely somehow dirty. I'm posting under my real name. Although first let me say that I consider thyroid medication and blood transfusions (I don't know the current status) and a number of other questionable practices that may be legal with a doctor's prescription to be dirty...
DaveyGuy wrote:not really wrote:Ajee Wilson 12.7
The very best percentage went to Molly Huddle, and she still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
Mary Cain 16.9
Molly Huddle ... still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
14% of the voters think that Joan Benoit was dirty? That is absolutely ridiculous.
Nothing whatsoever is ridiculous about thinking these people might be (or were) doping. I've known masters runners at the 16:00-plus 5k level who were/are on growth hormone, college runners - not at the national level, mind you, but the conference scorer level - who were on the juice, even high schoolers who admitted to use of cheap PEDs. How about those two Cat 3 cyclists who were popped for EPO a couple of years ago? They were nowhere near the pro level - just state-class amateurs presumably doing it for the fun of competition and personal improvement and without fame, money or endorsements to gain if they win. And we're somehow supposed to think professionals are cleaner as a whole?
Ajee Wilson 12.7
Mary Cain 16.9
right, and you can tell it is dirty because of the massive number of US distance runners who have tested positive!
Sweet Nell Fenwick wrote:Molly Huddle ... still had more than 8% of the voters thinking that she is dirty! Seriously? That says much more about the LetsRun populace than it does about her.
14% of the voters think that Joan Benoit was dirty? That is absolutely ridiculous.Nothing whatsoever is ridiculous about thinking these people might be (or were) doping. I've known masters runners at the 16:00-plus 5k level who were/are on growth hormone, college runners - not at the national level, mind you, but the conference scorer level - who were on the juice, even high schoolers who admitted to use of cheap PEDs. How about those two Cat 3 cyclists who were popped for EPO a couple of years ago? They were nowhere near the pro level - just state-class amateurs presumably doing it for the fun of competition and personal improvement and without fame, money or endorsements to gain if they win. And we're somehow supposed to think professionals are cleaner as a whole?
Ajee Wilson 12.7
Mary Cain 16.9
Anyone - at any level or at any age or from any land - is capable of cheating. What's "ridiculous" is the notion that people can't possibly be putting drugs into their bodies (or being doped without their knowledge) until they're X years old or until they're making Y salary from their athletic exploits or unless they (or their associates) exhibit Z "sleaze factor."
Get this straight: Track and Field is dirty. Real dirty. And drugs aren't confined to the elite level, although the elite level is particularly dirty.
You're mistaken, it is remarkably cynical. Why do you even follow the sport if that's what you truly believe? I'm sorry, but life is far too short to look at things with such a negative attitude. I honestly feel sorry for you.
david siegel wrote:
I do believe that all three (Huddle, Wilson and Cain) are most likely somehow dirty. ... I don't think this is an overly cynical argument...