I would say DECENT would be 5:15-5:20. What do you guys think?
I would say DECENT would be 5:15-5:20. What do you guys think?
decent miler wrote:
I would say DECENT would be 5:15-5:20. What do you guys think?
For a non runner that is much better than decent. Aka for sample of all male sophomore I'd say around 6:30 is decent, and under 6:00 quite good.
For runners, I'd say decent to me means a little better than average, so I'd suspect that is right around your mark of 5:20 or so.
Decent to many on here means on track to be a passable D1/D2 runner, so I'd say 4:40-4:50 ish.
DECENT
Freshman: 4:59
Sophomore: 4:45
Junior: 4:35
Senior: 4:25
something like this wrote:
DECENT
Freshman: 4:59
Sophomore: 4:45
Junior: 4:35
Senior: 4:25
you have to define decent. Does 'decent' mean 'good?'
I'd call 75% age graded 'decent' - for a 16 yr old that is 5:15
80% is good - that is 4:55
For tracking to run D1... wrote:
4:25 will get you nowhere near D1.
4:25 is DECENT for a senior.
agip wrote:
you have to define decent. Does 'decent' mean 'good?'
I'd call 75% age graded 'decent' - for a 16 yr old that is 5:15
80% is good - that is 4:55
http://www.usatf.org/statistics/calculators/agegrading/
Are that many people who actually run track for their sport really that freaking slow?
agip wrote:
you have to define decent. Does 'decent' mean 'good?'
I'd call 75% age graded 'decent' - for a 16 yr old that is 5:15
80% is good - that is 4:55
http://www.usatf.org/statistics/calculators/agegrading/
Hmm...usually I agree with just about everything you say agip, but I can't here...and I'll admit it makes me sad.
5:15 in high school isn't good or decent even for a freshman boy. Just way too slow.
The other list with 4:25 for a senior was pretty accurate, I think.
For Real? wrote:
agip wrote:you have to define decent. Does 'decent' mean 'good?'
I'd call 75% age graded 'decent' - for a 16 yr old that is 5:15
80% is good - that is 4:55
http://www.usatf.org/statistics/calculators/agegrading/Are that many people who actually run track for their sport really that freaking slow?
this is just numbers - based on the single aged WR, I believe.
In NYC the 10th grade city championship podium is 4:55 high.
I'm sure other places with a better distance running culture have faster kids.
agip wrote:
http://www.usatf.org/statistics/calculators/agegrading/
I tried out that calculator.
When I was a 17 year old senior I ran the mile in 4:41.
The calculator says I am NATIONAL CLASS!!!
National class? I got 7th place (almost dead last) in the district meet with that freaking time.
what the what? wrote:
For tracking to run D1... wrote:4:25 will get you nowhere near D1.
4:25 is DECENT for a senior.
4:25 is good enough for 15:30, maybe slightly better. Depending on the program of choice a 15:30 guy has a good chance of at least walking on.
There are lots of 15:00/25:00 guys on college that are there are bottom man contributors.
Flagpole wrote:
agip wrote:you have to define decent. Does 'decent' mean 'good?'
I'd call 75% age graded 'decent' - for a 16 yr old that is 5:15
80% is good - that is 4:55
http://www.usatf.org/statistics/calculators/agegrading/Hmm...usually I agree with just about everything you say agip, but I can't here...and I'll admit it makes me sad.
5:15 in high school isn't good or decent even for a freshman boy. Just way too slow.
The other list with 4:25 for a senior was pretty accurate, I think.
don't be sad, Flagpole - GG got her medal. And we are probably just disagreeing on semantics.
the problem is defining terms. - what does 'decent' mean? what does 'good' mean?
The definition of 'decent' is: of an acceptable standard; satisfactory.
Where I live, 4:45 for a 10th grader is the fastest 10th grader in all of NYC. I understand NYC is not a distance running hotbed, but I'm going to elevate 4:45 to 'pretty good' for a 10th grader.
I like age graded times, but they do fall down a little for young people and old people.
something is off here wrote:
agip wrote:http://www.usatf.org/statistics/calculators/agegrading/I tried out that calculator.
When I was a 17 year old senior I ran the mile in 4:41.
The calculator says I am NATIONAL CLASS!!!
National class? I got 7th place (almost dead last) in the district meet with that freaking time.
well those 'regional/national/world classifications are useless - that's just someone making things up. But the numbers are numbers and give you a good way to compare across ages and distances.
By any reasonable definition of the term "decent", if you aren't going sub 5 for the mile by the end of your sophomore year, you aren't decent.
LM wrote:
what the what? wrote:4:25 will get you nowhere near D1.
4:25 is DECENT for a senior.
4:25 is good enough for 15:30, maybe slightly better. Depending on the program of choice a 15:30 guy has a good chance of at least walking on.
There are lots of 15:00/25:00 guys on college that are there are bottom man contributors.
Forget it. LetsRun will never get it. To most people 7 is good. To LetsRun 4.5 is good. That's in minutes per mile, or inches.
agip wrote:
For Real? wrote:Are that many people who actually run track for their sport really that freaking slow?
this is just numbers - based on the single aged WR, I believe.
In NYC the 10th grade city championship podium is 4:55 high.
I'm sure other places with a better distance running culture have faster kids.
Little brother of Henrik Ingebrigtsen ran a 4.05 1500m, indoor..solo.
anyone out there in a city with a 10th grade championship in the mile or 1600?
Tell us what the podium was. I'm sure it will be all over the map, but I bet it falls out in the 4:50s.
All I'm saying is that podiums should not be defined as 'decent' - podiums should be defined as 'good'
but maybe I'm wrong - maybe most cities have 20 10th graders running 4:45. But I doubt it.
I think we are just defining 'decent' differently.
sub-4:20
4 flat or go home
agip wrote:
[quote]Flagpole wrote:
don't be sad, Flagpole - GG got her medal. And we are probably just disagreeing on semantics.
the problem is defining terms. - what does 'decent' mean? what does 'good' mean?
The definition of 'decent' is: of an acceptable standard; satisfactory.
Where I live, 4:45 for a 10th grader is the fastest 10th grader in all of NYC. I understand NYC is not a distance running hotbed, but I'm going to elevate 4:45 to 'pretty good' for a 10th grader.
I like age graded times, but they do fall down a little for young people and old people.
WOW, I am not disagreeing with you, just amazed. I remember 10th grade well and I had run 4:50 as a frosh and was trying hard to run sub-10:00 for 3200 that year. I rarely ran the mile, but when I did I doubled. The first time I ran it outdoors I had trained too hard (intervals and doubles every day, even Sunday) ... I ran a 4:48 and I think I was third on my team and 5th or 6th overall in a dual meet. I was so upset that I sulked for two days. Two days later I split 4:54/5:02 for a 9:56 3200m.
This has no relevance to "what is a decent 10th grade mile" ... only that I wish I was 16 right now in NYC. I would clean up.